Thanks for your replys i know what you mean about the cost of bullets but if you want to play you have to pay but is the .17hmr that sensitive as some so call shooters say they are thats all i hear is positive things about them well do you think i should swap the 222 to a 22 for foxes as can i still do this in my interveiw and then what ? 22 rimefire or centre fire tough choices easier when i bought my shotguns