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ha ha ha, hats off to you - afriend of mine has one and calls it his fairground rifle, he's scarily good with it. jon
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Thanks, It would be great to see pics if he's reading this. kindest regards, jon
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Bull Arabs are nothing like a large muscley greyhound mate....you must be getting mixed up with another breed. No, I know bull arabs / pig dogs etc - I havent seen a kangeroo dog, but my understanding of them is that they are sighthound based, like a chunkier bullygreyhound. I was saying that I expected them to be similar to bull arabs - dane/bullmastiff bulldog/staghound type of dogs - I will be more specific in future.
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Ignore me, im being a berk... I know bull arabs, though I skim read the article and miss read them as Kangeroo dogs. Im not entirely sure if they are extinct or not, they are supposedly like a large muscly greyhound - not dissimilar to a bull arab. If anyone knows of any about Id love to see a pic of them. kindest regards, jon
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Awesome dogs, Ive wanted to see some decent kangaroo dog pics for years. They look belters. Earlier in this thread there was a brief discussion of alano's - Ive posted a few pics of one of mine in the bull breed section if anyone is interested at all. Not promoting them or anything - just a few pics of my pets playing (alano playing with boerboel). He's son of the famous Curro (Current world champ) jon
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its to do with bacteria/ stomach upsets. Dogs are able to digest meat quickly, kibble takes longer. When you feed them together the kibble absorbs the stomach acids and thus the meat stays in the stomach longer than it should. This enables bacteria in some meats to spread within the dogs stomach + cause upsets. jon
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Here's a link that I get alot of meat from - they are very good. http://www.landywoods.co.uk/ In terms of chicken carcasses and bones, your best bet is to build a relationship with local butchers + they give it to you for next to nothing. My local butcher gives me 4-6 large carrier bags full of chicken carcasses / meaty bones + bits and bobs that arent as fresh as he would like... eg if ribs arent selling well he will chuck some in, at other times its liver / kidneys etc. The whole lot usually costs £5 or £10 dependent on quantity + what he has. Bare in mind that butchers have to pay to
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Bloody impressive stuff - tough dogs. The dane / bulmastiff cross seems to be a popular one in Aus - I wouldnt have thought they would have the necessary drive but they clearly do. You must have some quality stock out there to start with. 25 pigs is a serious amount of catching - thats an amazing nights work! I wonder how the feral pigs compare to european wild boar. kindest regards, Jon
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"especially if you have seen plenty of smaller or less dogs in Australia & NZ cope just as well holding to enable someone to get in flip & stick the boar " different dogs, different continents, different styles. regards, Jonathan
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A write up about Curro's show wins taken from Paco's website: "All my dogs are hunting or they have been used in the field grabing monchinas cows. In this activity it highlights Curro. He is son of Conan de la Carlanca y Tizona de las Tarantos. He has gotten the 1º prize as copy of their race 10 times with 69different judges. He won was at 22-5-05 in the International Exhibition of Madrid. 29-05-05 he won the first prize in Exhibition of Archidona (Malaga). He is de" best copy of his race" again and the same way nine times more. He is the first alano dog getting the first pric
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very nice - I have the same rifle. Unbelievably accurate for the money - but you will need to add 100 for a pup + buy a gunbag and pellets on to of that dont forget... it all adds up... but if your budget can stretch to just under £500 Id be inclined to agree with coney catcher.
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Here are a couple more pics (same dogs, different boars) : Please don't look if you are easily offended. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f57/boer...20061334461.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f57/boer...62006133371.jpg It looks like Curro (Tan) has a good grip in both pics. Its refreshing to see a show dog that is genuinely worked - I hope that those of you who choose to look find them interesting and not gratuitous. kindest regards, Jonathan
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That doesn't quite tie up with Sorry mate, I'm not trying to get at you here and I hope you aren't taking this personally. Sorry, Im trying to answer each point and im not going into enough depth -don't worry I don't mind the questions, they are probably the same ones I would ask. the alano usually hits the boar head on and goes for a grip, usually around the ears neck or even shoulder to avoid the tusks. Naturally the boar goes berserk and the alano will shake and bite harder until the boar is pacified - when the boar stops fighting the alano's relax and just hold.
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The thought of a dog killing a pig is an unplesant one - cant be a nice way to go to be savaged. I hear what you are saying about dogs fighting style - the alano is very similar in aproach to the dogo. Dogoman is a "very" experienced hunter who I have alot of respect for & I know full well the types of injuries his dogs have incurred - not pleasant. But Dogo's and alano's hunt this way for a reason. Once the alano has got in there they subdue the animal and hold it still for the hunters safety. Its a different approach to auzzie hog dogs from what I understand. Alano healing time - its
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Just to clarify, you arent looking at a cruel baiting sport - the dogs are bred purely to hold + the hunter swiftly dispatches the boar. It isnt done just for sport either - the dogs catch the boar for the cattle workers whils they are with the cattle for several months at a time - its a valuable food source and the hunters are very respectful. Where as many breeds savage, the alano does the bare minimum (usually a single holding bite) + when the boar relaxes, they relax - exactly the same way they controll the cattle. They often use 2 or 3 dogs to reduce risk of injury to the dogs, as this is
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Can i ask what do you find so great about four big dogs hanging on a small boars head? Of course, Its actually 3 dogs and a puppy & its only the adults holding. Its not the fact that they are biting, its the total controll that they have over the boars movement. This is a typical situation, it alows the hunter to come in with a degree of safety. As to the size of the boar, he looks about 200lb + I agree he's not the biggest - they can controll huge boar, though its dangerous business and its not easy to photograph. Apologies if you find the image shocking, in retrospect I should ha
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Youre probably right (Sincere apologies if you find it distasteful) - I get desensitised, I look at that pic and see impressive dogs, not the boar thats about to be dispatched. Though as rough as it may first seem its a reality of what actually happens. IMO as long as the hunter is respectful and dispatches it quickly then it is infinately more respectable than some poor battery chicken beheaded in a factory machine - the boar has had a wonderful life + is dispatched in the most effective and humane way possible. Its all about respect for animals quality of life. kindest regards, Jon
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For about £140 you can pick up an AGS SR2 with a 3-4x40 milldot from Uttings. They dont post the offer on the internet but if you give them a ring they will sort you out. go for .177 in my opinion, the flatter trajectory makes for easier hunting / you dont have to think about drop off too much. Break barrels are absolutely fine and a very good place to start. A friend of mine regularly uses one and he's better than me with my fancy PCP, lol. The SR2 is a belter of a cheap rifle + is basicly a chinese replica of a of a HW90, but dont let that put you off as its still a class act (some rifle sn
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Just found this great photo in my photobucket - the tan dog is Curro, sire to my stud dog: http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hunterken...dnm=17ebre2.jpg jon
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No problem about the multiple questions - I just hope I can answer them sufficiently. I will try to answer you questions to the best of my knowledge. (For a more educated response I can put you in contact with a friend who is one of the foremost experts on the subject if you like) : Temperatures - From absurd freezing temps (Spanish mountains) to extreme heat and humidity, im not sure about exact temps. Its impressive stuff as the traditional Spanish way is for the hunter to ride a horse + the alano's cover serious distances. Allot of hunts take place at night by moonlight whilst the boar
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Well Im no expert on the subject - but they are a catch dog type. Often (but not always) hounds will bay the boar + the alano's will come in and fight/pin the boar so that the hunter can dispatch with a knife. They do not cause excessive damage unless they have to - the emphesis is on doing just enough to restrain.. which makes sense considering the same dogs will be used to stop a rampaging bull - it makes no sense for the alano to cause excessive damage or kill the bull, they just tire out and divert the bulls attention to keep the workers safe when bulls freak out. They have awesome jaw str
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The dog wouldnt know what it is being punished for so you have to be indifferent. A good technique is whilst in the home ignore the dog for a while, this is doggy language for Im dissapointed with you. Then buy a police long training leash - a 20ft nylon is probably best as its nice and light. Feed he dog slightly less than usual and use the kibble/meat/whatever as training treats. Recal the dog saying the comand only once- never repeat yourself its a sign of weaknes in the dogs eyes. When the dog eventually comes give him the treat and go mental with praise as if its the best dog in the world
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Here's a favourite website of mine http://www.boardogs.com/ lots of interesting info and great dogs / explenations of results from different crosses. kindest regards, jon
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thanks for the kind welcome. kindest regards, jon
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I would go for the MFR. I personally use a S400 that does the job beautifully - its relatively cheap and the accuracy is superb, hunting out to 45 yards wind conditions permitting. The S410 is a lovely rifle too - the multi-shot is a nice feature, but im a bit old school and prefer to feed the pellets myself. Im not a fan of having to fiddle loading pellets into multishots and keeping an eye on how many are left. To be honest the MFR is a beautiful rifle, but I would probably just grab a second hand rapid if I were you - superb accuracy/consistancy. kindest regards, jon
