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Hi s Would you be so kind as to suggest one to me ....that is dog specific? Why would it have to be dog specific? internal respiration isn't dog specific indeed as explained above it's pretty non specific. It should contain something like this. Glycolysis= glucose + 2 NAD+ + 2 ADP + 2 Pi à 2 pyruvate + 2 NADH + 2 ATP Gluconeogenesis= 2 pyruvate + 2 NADH + 4 ATP + 2 GTP à glucose + 2 NAD+ + 4 ADP + 2 GDP + 6 Pi Glycolysis yields 2 ~P bonds of ATP. Gluconeogenesis expends 6 ~P bonds of ATP and GTP. The two processes are not utilised together as it would was

Hi s Would you be so kind as to suggest one to me ....that is dog specific?

We are all entitled to our views...but I am serious what are you original sources

So why keep writing about glucose. There is really no need to suggest different food for different work, it's a myth mainly put out by the kibble manufactures to entice people to buy their kibble. As an example there is no need to feed a puppy different food from an adult it's a myth. Lordy glycogen is stored glucose bit like frozen meat is still meat. Please quote your sources re a single diet being OK for all dogs and why do you keep brining kibble into it? I promote a balenced diet not complete feeds. I asked you for your sources first

So why keep writing about glucose. There is really no need to suggest different food for different work, it's a myth mainly put out by the kibble manufactures to entice people to buy their kibble. As an example there is no need to feed a puppy different food from an adult it's a myth.

No you are wrong......the difference is in the different form of the dog not in a different metabolism. You keep writing about glucose do your research on glycogen not glucose.

I use a dried food base to which i add fresh meat/fat and bones depending on season ie butchers waste, rabbits etc + cooked vegtables, the odd egg any table scraps are given as well. The dried feed gives a baseline that can then be individualised to any adult given dogs requirements. In simple terms increase protien while building up, increase fat in colder weather or if lots of stamina type work, increase carbs for lots of sprinting while balencing the others out so to not over/underfeed. Used to use a lot of fish and tripe but the supply dried up but giving a good variety is a good way of co

Hi Sandymere I am pleased to hear you have no vested interests in selling kibble, Again I very doubt if you will see any scientific research against feeding carbs to dogs because any research that had been done in dog nutrition has been funded by the kibble manufacturers (AFAIK). I may stand corrected LOL

I don't see it like that......... I would not say it is conjecture but anocdotal . My own research on raw has been done in the environment of in my case working gundogs and I can tell you that raw feeding is far better for my dogs than any of the kibbles I tried before moving on to raw, and I tried most of the well known brands. If people tell you differently they usually have a vested interest in selling kibble. Still each to their own.

Hi Eamon Have you meat wholesalers locally, they can sell you meat and bones, lamb breasts, chicken carcasses, heart, kidney ,liver, pork bellies, pork ribs, pigs heads, You may have access to rabbit and maybe road kill deer etc,etc,etc If you get in with them they should let you have the contents of their rendering bucket, you will need a chest freezer to store it and a small fridge ( both can be bought second hand) to defrost it in before giving to the dog. Easy once you get into a routine.

in laymens terms adding carbs in whatever sensible form ie dog biscuits/meal, oats, rice, pasta etc or already added as part of a complete dried type feed is probably helpful as part of a balenced diet. Hi Sandymere What I mean is did you write the passage yourself? or did you lift it from somewhere? My own work as was the previouse post on Carbohydrate and working dogs and the one I did on rhabdomyolysis. Cheers s Hi Sandymere Thanks for that have you read Raw Meaty Bones by Tom Lonsdale, The Wolf's Natural D

Hi Sandymere What I mean is did you write the passage yourself? or did you lift it from somewhere?

Hi Sandymere Just wondering mate where did you get that info from. Can you quote the source please?

Hi It's just an easy progression on to proper one pound dummies, I don't know your training but please don't be in too much of a rush to get him on fur and feather..you might have problems with him not want to go back to normal dummies and them you could be stuffed with his retrieve training...stick to dummies for now..I would.

Hi A nice litter of pups, well done.