wulf

As usual people mocking someone who is genuinely asking for help and guidance. First things first, get your pup used to livestock. You may not have the permission now but who's to say a couple of years down the line you don't hit lucky with a few different farms. Last thing you want is your pup setting about the farmers sheep, poultry or spooking his cattle. Keep it on a lead and walk it round near livestock. If it shows any desire to go for them, give it a yank on lead and shout no. As for introducing it to quarry, just take it to wherever there are rats / rabbits about and let it sc

Mine don't have mouths like a gun dog that's for sure. They're terriers at the end of the day and so you've got to expect some damage to the meat once it's caught.

Not much I can add to that. Mine were never over matched too early purely because I didn't have the opportunity to put that game In front of them at the time. Maybe why I've had more bolts than digs.

Why would anyone put anything other than those type of pics on a website?

Plummers if bred right will work anything, the limitation depends on the owner. Mine rat, can have a dig with them, they come with me on the shoot and will flush birds, retrieve shot game, they'll mark anything, from squirrels up trees to rats sat up high in machinery / walls etc, they're biddable too. Faults; some of them tend to be headstrong,sometimes they'll run down a fresh scent and not come off when shouted, some are gassy. Mine tend to work on too far ahead of the gun so tight control is needed to bring them back in line otherwise they flush birds too far away. If there is any gam

I'll ring you tonight when im finished work, are you still on the same number?

And for the record to my knowledge he left no such orders to any committee about how to carry the breed on. People breed the way they see fit. Can't speak for the other 3 clubs but nobody in the PTA is told what they can or can't say, we're grown adults not school kids ffs.

WCM I respect a lot of what you say with regards the working of these terriers but your comments about the club committees and kc are way off the mark. Out of the 4 clubs only 1 of them has kc specifically at the top of its agenda and of the 4 only one is headed up by a woman (who incidentally works her terriers more than most). I've said before its no good shouting from the side lines you have to be actively involved in the clubs to have your voice heard. Just as you have been trying to change people's opinions on here, so various members of the clubs have been trying to change peopl

Looks like it was a one off. Shouldn't have let myself get drawn in.

Well done Alfie t whenever there is a plummer thread there's always someone who pipes up and says they're afraid of the dark. WRONG!

First things first mate get your dog used to livestock of all kinds before you take it ratting. Last thing you want is to deal with is the aftermath of your pup killing something it shouldn't. It might cost someone their permission. Teaching the pup not to worry stock whilst "on the job" isn't the best way forward. Better to get the stock breaking out of the way first then focus on catching rats.

forgot to say, there are circumstances where only a smoker will do, where you cant dig underneath (barn floors) or where there would be risk to livestock (for example poultry houses) where you couldnt put a ferret in

i prefer letting the dogs mark and then digging them out, i would also prefer to use ferrets than a smoker (depends whether your dogs are broken to them or not) - it is more direct. Rats will sometimes prefer to fall asleep under the influence of the smoke in the hole than try a bolt, if your dogs are like mine and get excited biting the soil / debris away then the rats will definately know you are above ground. A ferret will actively seek out the rats, unlike smoke which takes the path of least resistance through a set of holes. If you are around a water source and you get rats say behind

WM i have just proposed such a thing to the pta committee, a group or sub committee it matters not what the name is, but tracing old lines which can be brought back in to use and collaborating closer with the other clubs with a focus on work is what i have proposed. Getting pups in to working homes where they will be tested properly is the hardest part. normally these things are discussed at the agms but harsh reality is the membership arent bothered on the whole. Hardly anyone sticks around for the agm and therefore important issues dont get raised or discussed by the wider membership

Tim i agree with WM about your honesty but it takes 2 to tango