Ive used them and maxi mingers and caught on them everywhere i tried them .The minis are very small , only about 3in long and 27 gram so they are ok on shallow venues but if your fishing deep water a springdawg or bulldawg size lure will be a better bet .The pike shop sell some dawg copys that are cheap but decent quality . My favourite dawg copy was the now discontinued fox shallow devient , if you can find any of them they are well worth getting.