You are exactly right . . .just like rabbits, ive seen hares lamped ,( not by my dogs ) it leaves a taste in the mouth . Get on salsbury plains or out on the fens give em 100 yards+ and it can make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Alfy , enjoy your hunting , its good to see the next generation , i wish you all the best , we come from different ways thats all, but its not just the fox hunt that have traditions and i would be doing a dis service to the old timers who taught me if i didnt point it out. I was told you lamp deer foxes rabbits but never hares. Also a fox is always he and