I was out sorting some crows and rooks for a farmer on sunday, was having a great time shooting a 12g semi auto, the carts I was using were lyvale express steel, half way through the session one of the shots went off a lot louder than any of the others and there was a hell of a kick, my mate who was the other side of a small wood came round to check if I was still in one piece, anyone had a simaler experience. atb nasher