before any one has a go at me you know what this site is like, its a old dog i used to have a very good mate of mine owns the dog now he asked me to put a couple of pics up for him as he wants to get a pup back out of this dog as he is a true worker. hes 8 years old and still working strong and if your not intrested in using him dont bother replying he in linconshire area pm if you want the phone number