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ditchy, i would have left them hanging in the shed , imagine carrying a dozen of those just to catch a rabbit or two. just the look of it frightens me never mind a bagfull.Micky,If you're feeling flush there is a pretty rare one on US eBay right now - a LaValley Clutch Trap - have a look
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-ALEXANDER-LAVALLE...1QQcmdZViewItem
This one is a Cooper Humane clutch trap made in 1927 - similar sort of jaws, only double this time.
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we could certainly do with a good strong humane rabbit trap micky, ones that have quality springs that will last a good few years , also to be able to by spare springs , when replacement is needed , like the american tappers can do , as these spring traps weaken after a few years and are not humane . the price we have to pay for traps over here is ridiculous , the american traps are quality and very reasonably priced, same with all their realtree stuff, gun, and ammo , here we are robbed to death , a thousand rounds of .222 ammo , 170 dollars = 85 quid , in UK 20 rounds about 15 quid, a thousand rounds 750 quid , if thats not blatent robbery what is , you are better sending over to the states for all your shooting clothes , boots , lamps etc, with the postage they are half the uk price , realtree caps 7 dollars in canada 3 1/2 quid . over here 15quid , at least DICK TURPIN had the courtesy to wear a mask when he robbed you.Over the years i have read on this forum ,discriptions of various rabbit traps that worked well in theory, but in pratice had minor faults, for example ,to heavy . to expensive . to complicated . weak springs . prone to jamming . ETC, With todays lightweight ,high tensile modern steel could any of these old traps be brought back into service. If so ,whitch why ,and how.
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there was a guy showing the head keeper a few weeks ago trying one out, and he must have put to much gas into the burrow , when it was ignited he burned his jacket hands and singed his eyebrows , the head keeper phoned me to tell me about it as he had a good laugh about it , it seems a bit extreme to kill a few rabbits , the old ferret would have been better ,It beats me how these people are allowed to sell them in this country,no way can you guarantee there is nothing underground,was given the hard sell on one of these by someone who has one,said at the time prefer traditional and tried methods, -
yes there are many top quality snarers and trappers out there in US and CANADA i know as i have been going out there for 40 years , but they have their share of dumplings just like we have over here , but they are not any better at open trail snaring than the guys over here , and they certainly can,t snare rabbits in the professional manner that we can , as we are top of the tree at the pegged rabbit snaring. a woodland style rabbit snare would have suited them better than tying up with twine and trying to bush the snare in , and once again they have this donkey mentality setting with a tiny loop .more like a boy scouts outing on that vid and the music was weird but the the americans are pretty knowledgble blokes and met many that were far from that silly vid, it was realy strange as he walked through the runs with little sticks and black twine and all the nonsense crazy -
steady m.t. get in the queue, the big fella is busy at the moment with mine , as woodga is keeping all his ash pegs to himself , greedy rascal.Duckwing, how much would you want for a sack of hardwood snare pegs,
,i am getting proper fed up whittling ash ones as i am doing them by hand and still need to do another 3-4 hundred. 
Regards MT.
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okay i gave in and looked at the site , pure shite .
you would starve to death waiting on these guys snaring a kill of rabbits , the picture was bad enough without , me clicking on to look at some rank amateur american playing himself at rabbit snaring. by the way ian, you will pay for this boy . ha ha.
I would give anything to see his face as he watches those . . . priceless!
Typical bullsh*t snaring, from so-called trappers that have no idea at all
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you would starve to death waiting on these guys snaring a kill of rabbits , the picture was bad enough without , me clicking on to look at some rank amateur american playing himself at rabbit snaring. by the way ian, you will pay for this boy . ha ha.I would give anything to see his face as he watches those . . . priceless!
Typical bullsh*t snaring, from so-called trappers that have no idea at all
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holdaway, check that your pan is clearing the chin bar properly , and that the wood chin bar is not swelling with the wet weather , also check that the pan is clearing the sides of the mesh tunnel , so that it falls freely , and also what duck wing suggested , i spray all mine green , and what the hell the manufacturer made a bright yellow pan for beats me . i put the bait at the back of the spring to one side so that a rat or squirrel can,t reach in and take the bait , which can also happen in very rare occasions with the kania, therefore they are forced to go in and under the mesh to get the bait, it looks as if the rat was holding onto the under side of the cage roof when caught as its belly is facing outwards . even when a mouse climbs up and in they are caught , same with stoats squirrels and weasels, everything i have caught was by the back of the head, i also lubricate the small bar that the bottom of the pan housing rotates on .HOLDAWAY ,WHAT SIZE HAVE YOU GOT THE OPENING AT THE FRONT OF THE MILK CARTON ? , AS FROM THE PICS IT SEEMS THAT THE QUARRY HAS GONE OVER THE TOP OF THE WIRE MESH GUIDE ? ......... IF IT IS THE CASE ........ MAYBE REDUCEING THE OPENING DOWN TO JUST SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE MESH GUIDER WILL WORK
ALL THE BEST
DUCKWING
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if you carry on like that ian, we will all soon have to go to the zoo to see one , ha ha.Set a few wednesday around some woodland, had 19 minus 3 a fox has taken, took a couple of images but my hands were full, too much pissing about
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120-2 , yes the kill time was under four mins. i sent a fenn mark v1 out to canada , a few years back , it was said not to be strong enough to comply with stringent canadian trap law , as canada leads the world in humane trapping , they have a 120 size bodygrip trap out called an LDL with seriously powerfull springs to kill marten , i have one in my shed , the trappers voiced concern about the power of this little trap , as it could be a danger when setting in freezing conditions if it fired onto fingers or thumbs , but the killing time of the animal came first , seemingly before trapper safety. the trappers were voicing concern about it themselves at the convention i attended up in north eastern b. c. the trappers have just completed a test themselves on lynx snares with added breakaways , to stop wolverine which were accidently caught in lynx snares, previously, and escaping with a broken snare around them, the added breakaways have now solved this problem,Hi Moley.The Central Science Laboratory tests the trap on behalf of DEFRA. DEFRA also decide whether or not to fund the testing although this can be paid for privately if DEFRA decide not to but they have the final say after testing whether to add it to the approved spring traps list or not. Also you generally have to give around 10 traps to the CSL for testing, I think the killing time was 3 minutes but they are working to bring it down. The CSL will do a lot of the testing themselves but do also sub-contract some to bodies like the Game Conservancy etc.
I myself have a trap going through testing at the moment.
OJ
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the steel wire does not go into the stops far enough , and pull of at times , i lost 8 foxes trying them, but resnared 6 of them in my own snares , was speaking to a keeper and he will not set them on the hill where red deer are as the same problems occur , the loops are to small on some of them , and they advertise a 33 inch loop now , big deal , and charge extra money . these snares can be made cheap as the hard steel bowden cable is half the price of aircraft cable . the steel eyes rust like hell, at the game fair a keeper said to me watch this , he put his foot into the loop of one of these new wires , wrapped the plain wire trace around his hand and the wire pulled out of the stop. you can buy good ones from woodga. that will not pull apart.SHOP BROUGHT FOX SNARES R OK -
what the hell do i need a bloody old trap for when ive got 2000 pegged wires, at my finger tips, talk sense laddie , but bring the pegs up,WELL FANCY THAT !,HELL .......... SNAREMAN........... PUTTING ME IN THE SAME CLUB AS WOODGA AND P&G
THEM SMOGGIES AND GEORDIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BAD , BAD LOT
AND........ AFTER I HAD SPENT AN AFTERNOON IN THE SHED KNOCKING YOU UP A FEW HARDWOOD PEGS ............ JUST BECAUSE I KNEW THAT WOODGA WOULDNT GIVE YOU ANY OF THAT LOVELY ASH HES BEEN STOREING UP , BY THE TIME HE GETS ROUND TO SPLITTING IT THE WOOD WILL BE ROTTEN !
NO DOUBT POOR RATCHERMAN WILL BE GETTING THE JOB FROM LORD WOODGA
THERES AN AVERAGE OF 350 IN EACH SACK ,........ GOT ANOTHER TWO SACKS TO DRILL , THEN I WILL DROP THEM OFF FOR YER ....... I WAS GONNA GIVE YOU ONE OF MY PRIZE SELLAFIELD TRAPS ,...... BUT.......... DONT KNOW WHEATHER YOU DESERVE ONE
ALL THE BEST
DUCKWING
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GOD, designed the system , every day in life some creature or bird dies for another to live , nature is totally ruthless , any sign of weakness results in starvation and death when predators kill , and birds of prey kill they are anything but humane, they act on natural instinct , man on the other hand has the power to think , form solutions,and reason , therefore we as trappers try to be as humane as possible, the problem is the weak nanny state shields modern kids from reality and the hard facts of true life .ok mate, so take no notice of all the other replies stating answers to your question, you yourself state that your only 17yrs, which in my eye's is still a kid,out of interest, do crayfish suffer when you boil them
Well you must be really old then,i`m not a kid and don`t like being called one, and crayfish don`t suffer when you drop then straight into boiling water.
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thats a pretty big fellow in the mark four trap.Good going matt, a nice tally with the traps.. -
aye these geordie lads are worth of watching , see what he went away with from my hut the last time he was up here , woodga, and duckwing are far worse than peg and gun , and i thought he was bad ,Cheers glen ill look forward to getting them mate im glad you told me how many wires you sent or else woodga would of said glen has sent you 10 nicefence wires doon and kept 40 for himself
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stubby, the big cheese don,t match up to the victor for quality and power, and the kill bar is weaker , you need to pull the sring prongs at the back , out straight and hammer in a couple panel pins in at the outside of each prong to keep them from sliding inwards into a V shape , your chin bar should be a half inch high , and pointed , not flat , chin bars can be made from galv. wire in the shape of a goal post , or a small length of any right angled metal, on the whole , i wouldn,t buy those big cheese , ive had them and in my opinion they are crap , as ditchy says phone the girl from killgerm, or contact matt the rat who is on this site he sells them. all in all the victor wins hands down with me .had a couple of pictures to put up, but my phones gone haywire and i cant access them
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you seem to get this fat discolouration , due to the various types of herbage eaten also in severe hard winter weather when they are stripping alot of tree bark , hawthorne , ash , oak , and wild bushes, these harwoods have a lot of tannin in the bark .One of the places i control the rabbits is hard against the Atlantic, very barren, the rabbits there have extremley yellow/orange fat, they strip the Gorse bare. We make wine out of the gorse from this same farm but the rabbits do not taste like it "unfortunatly". -
its the same with the snaring M.T. the info up on this site can bring them up to frying speed very quickly, but they don,t have the years of real grounding behind them, the miles, the trial and error , thunder and lightning, rain running out your ass, sleet, frost , freezing hands , etc. we have had them on here before , a days course and they are instant experts , but for all the numpties there are , the genuine ones keep at as they are keen to learn. and the more people who learn to do it properly and more humanely the better.Sorry to be a bit of a misery here, but seems to me we are on this forum setting rank beginers and dreamers into over night pesties by giving away every detail of the job drip by drip, i learnt the job the hard way over years and years, trial and error etc, but you could sift through previous posts on here and be armed with enough info to start tomorrow.Now dont get me wrong, i have helped a lot of people setting up, who are genuine lads, BUT, there are a lot of numpties on here who arent ever going to make it, but will end up on rogue traders, and to be honest it will be some of our faults.
OK, i am ready for the flack, give it your best,
Regards MT.
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wise advise , as eating bracken causes tumours in cattle and sheep .well we have been doing some thinning out with the wires against the rabbits just before they breed, and as we were snaring in woodland that had a good covering of wild garlic we were aware when gutting these rabbits that they had been eating the shoots
the smell was unmistakeable i cooked one of these rabbits and the garlic had gone into the flesh flavoured rabbits or what ?also depending on where your catching the colour of the fat around the kidneys varies we normally get yellow fat when they are feeding on hay or whinney bushes have you lot ever had any unusal odours when gutting or fat colourations when catching in different locations ?I like a rabbit that has been feeding on mangles or sugar beet the meat tastes sweeter somehow.Years ago my grandpa told me never eat a rabbit that feeds on bracken ,because they will be bitter,
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woodga, i only eat rabbits from areas where pesticides are not used , woodland, estabiished grazing, or from the top of the surrounding bings,when snaring rabbits one time along a motorway banking where they fed along the roadside , there intestines seemed to be very dark and leathery looking , to much lead pollution along these roadsides due to the thousands of vehicles passing everyday.well we have been doing some thinning out with the wires against the rabbits just before they breed, and as we were snaring in woodland that had a good covering of wild garlic we were aware when gutting these rabbits that they had been eating the shoots the smell was unmistakeable i cooked one of these rabbits and the garlic had gone into the flesh flavoured rabbits or what ?also depending on where your catching the colour of the fat around the kidneys varies we normally get yellow fat when they are feeding on hay or whinney bushes have you lot ever had any unusal odours when gutting or fat colourations when catching in different locations ? -
woodga, duck wing will be up there with chipper looking for the ones thats left. ha ha.well done...
all this talk of snares, im gonna get out tomorrow & set a load.
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gary, ive spun up 50 wires for you 22 1/2 inches long they will be posted down to woodga,s address tomorrow for you along with the little tripod for your camera, you deserve a little something for all your work son, snaring , skinning , and mincing. mind and put your new apron on that geordie sent you .Cheers colin for the snaring experience and it was an experience aswell i have sat and watched you spinning the wires and youve told me about how effective they are but you dont believe it untill you see it for yourself if thats what we can catch in the snow i cant wait for the summer looking forward to the next trip oot so get spinning them wires and ill put the kettle on -
thats how you are hardly catching any, because you are using shop bought snares , how many times have people been told on this site that these type of snares are pure shite, thats why woodga is getting big catches because he is using his own professionally made snares ,nice one where do you get snares from i have a few shop brought ones and i never catch as maney as that
i only ever get a few a night mabey 3 out of 20 and most ar nocks or just untouched mabey im setting them wrong ? -
i,ve bolted foxes, feral cats, stoats, mink, little owls, rock doves, a wild ferret , a polecat, a couple of rats , and a wee mouse that came out and tucked itself up beside a fresh killed rabbit for warmth on a cold day in woodland .On two occasions bolted a little owl.
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