[bANNED TEXT] im not arguing with anyone and if iv upset anyone pm me and keep it of this open forum i have stated that i have used this method my self but i lost 3 jills with this method when i put my hob down nothing came of it i waited for hours the jills wich i prefer to use must of got out threw a bolt hole iv nothing against old times but you were riding a pennie farthing are you still riding one now,like i say pm me