kiz i dont see you getting on any ones back when they sell labs on here. and labs are well nown for bad hipps and eyes or is it just rots on your hit list. and as for pip want to meet away from is house i think i might be the same had i had my dogs nicked twice befor.the lad is bang on if you ever met him you wud agree iam shore of that. hes delt with a couple of people on here and iam shore they will tell you