what know how have you tried to pass on jessy ,how to get peoples backs up you seem to get a kick out of stirring it. ive bin in the game for over 25yrs and still consider myself a novice ive bin lucky enough to have bin around some true countrymen 60yrs plus experience at getting the best out of their dogs i wont mention names because not trying to name drop but some have been in books with their dogs because they really did have knowledge and the right attitude as well as top drawer dogs not saying seen it all but very much doubt your acheivements would make me swoon sorry to burst your ball