They are not a bad little tool, iv had 2 now (9inch mod one and a full lentgh baikal stelth) had no problems with either of them - baikals are solid reliable guns anyway. They are quiet in open fields but do crack a bit near buildings. the only problem, well not problem but they take some getting used to as they pattern low due to aiming with the top of the moderator. this is no problem after a few shots at tin cans to establish the point of aim. I found the quietist carts where express 18g loads, i never tried the 3 inch subs so cant comment on them. up to 25 yards for clean kills a great too