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Good for you, you got the dog you wanted Nice one, lookinmg forward to a few pics, as its and interessting cross.
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Good to see em all again, is pick 1 mines dam ?
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Well, I'm happy for the date to be later, as I might have met someone by then to use as a ref.
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I'd like in, but have never met anyone from these sites, so dont have the 2 refs.
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Not a Red, but you get the idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTn9lNuU3Zg
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I have a coursing vid with a dog called "nipper" on it, seemed a real good dog, anyone know more about him/her ?
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My GS X rotti, though not a great pot filler, oftern comes in with a collared dove or starling in its mouth, which the ferrets get, destroys rats and has had one fox so far.
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Dominique crampon de caprona and Bernd fritzsch arent breeders mate. Look forward to this other test being published, or is it just a part of the entire dog mapping prodject being run currently?
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Just out of intrest, did anyone read this link? http://sloughi.tripod.com/SFAA/MitochondrialDNA.html It does get very interessting towards the end. Of course some of my reading comes from google, why not use it as a source of reasearch? but I also worked for a Middle Eastern royal family for 5 years, a Qatar diplomat for 3 years and spent 1 year in morrocco, which is why these breeds have always interested me. As to saying other dogs have been used in recent breeding, I was reffering to my time in morrocco, and the sloughi, not the middle east, though of course not all
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Read the link, it shows that the sloughi developed in africa, totaly seperate from the saluki for a few thousand years. It seems the sloughi has survived undiluted in isolation from cross breeding (or at least the 6 dogs lines whos dna they used) due to geological remoteness, and has never interbreed with the saluki, or that if it did, that the lines died out, which is interessting considering the best worker to best worker theory
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Sure, I see your point. But if you read the link on dna you will see that the sloughi is an ancient breed, very distinct from the saluki, which supprised me a lot, as I always belived the saluki to be the more ancient breed, but It seems the saluki has a lot more dogs in its make up than the sloughi. The dna evidence shows that the sloughi and saluki are as closely related as the wire haired fox terrier of the uk is to the sloughi Still, always an interessting subject.
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PMW the first link you posted is a very interessting read this section in particular http://sloughi.tripod.com/SFAA/MitochondrialDNA.html Seems to show that there is a very distinct differance between the 2 breeds in question.
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Isreal borders both ranges, so dogs from that region tend to carry both genes, Morroco, where I lived for a year is at the far end of the Sloughi's range, has the purest Sloughi's due to geological location, and while there I never saw a feathered one. Like you said earlier, feathered ones did turn up in france, but that doesnt mean they do in the atlas mountains. Though of course the k.c doesnt mean a lot to the owners and workers of this breed, or type, and there not shy of introducing other good stock into the mix, like greyhounds for example. Which is something that can confuse the m
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Sack the collies, inject a bit of Canaan blood in
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Of course they are simular breeds, the Saluki was mainly kept by the Bedouin and the sloughi by the Berber's, france controled areas where both breeds ranged, so some cross breeding isnt unlikely, though Saluki's as you say do come in both smooth, and feathered, Sloughi's only come in smooth. There heavyier boned, and in genral there bigger dogs. Both breeds go back a few thousand years, and were developed for simular terrain, deserts, though the sloughis are from the Sahara and the saluki from the middle east.
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Sloughi are short haired and heavyer boned
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As was said on Ideal the other night Farts are like kids, you hate others, and cherish your own
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just for you you old bar stool
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All I can say is, I'm glad they bred their last litter as I have a cracking dog from it, that I'm more than happy with. I actually found it fairly hard to find a home raised litter, of well socalised, very well cared for pups of the breeding I required, at the time I was looking. And know others who also have dogs from the same, and previous litters that there very happy with. Its certainly no puppy farm, as you would know if you visited the family. The care and attention to detail (full worming record, microchiped, well socailsed ext) was second to non imho. Anyway, n
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I think this point from the other thread is the most important to me.
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I've met the family, there are 3 adults there, all dog owners. So when you break it down like that, there arent really that many dogs. There certainly well looked after dogs, with plenty of space, care ext I'm confused now, I thought it was sighthoundlovers dad posting in this thread Still, back to borzois, I've noticed that most of the russian coursing sites that have borzois, normally have what appear to be either greyhound or saluki crosses taking home most of the coursing prizes, so they seem to be better outcrossed.
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Start small, and build up.
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Ah HAWKEYE one of those "my friend" storys hu :whistle:
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Also interessted in finding out a bit more about a borzoi cross, though yours is a huge beast and your daughter wont let you cross her I imagen crossing one to a saluki would produce a fairly fine dog for large game.
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Go for a lurcher, I'm more than happy with my bitza lurcher as a ferreting companion, though he has only seen a few months of work so far, I'm looking forward to next season when he will be more mature. Now the question is, what sort of lurcher Mines bedlington X whippet to a collie X greyhound
