cheers for the info stevo. i read a review that sed it was shooting at 10.5 ... years ago i had a old bsa meteor that used to shoot at around 8 and it stil droped rats but i think the min i would want is 10 ... can you recommend a good site for second-hand rifles my local gun shop only stocks new and ther mostly pcp over the £300 mark. Am looking for a springer under £200 inc scopes