gnasher16
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At last its happened......i knew it would only be a matter of time before someone paid the price for the pathetic acting and ludicrous ring entrances these fellas make......jackson barely moved a muscle in the 6 or 7 minutes leading up to the fight instead preferring to concentrate on his cringeworthy " hard " look....meanwhile griffin was keeping loose and active so that when the first bell sounded he was ready for anything.....in my opinion jackson won the first round but was probably not fully " loose " until round 3 or 4 by which time it was too late with his leg being knackered from a kic
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While all these statistics dont stack up well for the poor old pit bull it has to be said that surely the numbers wouldnt be half as high if the " im a hard gangster with a pitbull " type of owner......owned a cocker spaniel,dalmatian...or any other breed.....and NOT a pitbull....likewise if old age pensioners were attracted more to pitbulls than to cocker spaniels,this too would surely change these statistics......when you have fools with the gangster mentality standing on street corners......with 1 particular breed....it stands to reason that breed ( whichever it may be ) is going to pay for
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they did , and they nearly won until he was mowed down and killed in a car accident . cant remember his name , i will try and find out Joe Graham was a good man and was certainly a good voice for the silent minority of the time......there was plenty of " Joe " dogs in the early 90,s named after him....however,with all due respect to Joe i think any publicist for the breed today will need a very strong knowledge of law and not just a love of the breed,...unfortunately these days roll your sleeves up type of passion has long since given way to arty farty collar and tie brainpower !
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Just out of interest for any of you Ali fans.....a doorman in liverpool...well ( professional greeter ) as he likes to be called .....lost a close points decision to ali in the 70,s after which ali called him the hardest puncher he ever faced....,Earnie Shavers..... I was fortunate enough to be given a short home video of an interview between earnie,ali,foreman and ken norton from late 99.......they mostly rant on about god but all 3 say shavers was the hardest puncher of their generation !
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The big little man.....would have boxed at a higher level in todays game where he most probably would have only been a light heavy....still though,a short stocky southpaw will always be avoided......hows the old boy doing these days,sorry to hear of your sad loss earlier in the year,all the best.
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Is that right,i didnt know that....some achievement !....was chatting to somebody this morning about him,indeed mctaggart was from dundee,i was also told two of his aba finals were wins over none other than larry o connell who of course later became a top british referee...... As for the kaylor/christie fight bill speaks of......23 years ago and i remember it like it was yesterday,very rarely does a grudge match live up to expectations....but this one did.....still one of the best atmospheres ive ever seen at a fight.....wembley arena packed with 90 % west ham fans,christie never stood a c
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Certainly a strong fighting family from glasgow or aberdeen was it i forget now,something like 10 brothers i believe !.....i was just a nipper but i know he won a fair few aba titles......think he won either olympic or commonwealth gold in the 60,s probably commonwealth.....very good amateur coach in his later years ended up with an mbe if im not mistaken.
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Domestic level.....Billy Walker,Terry Spinks,Mark Kaylor,Nigel Benn,Charlie Magri....( but i suppose it could be said im slightly biased ) World level.....Joe Louis,Ali,Leonard........too many great fighters to list.
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Ok mystic meg your clearly way out of my league or anybody elses when it comes to medical expertise....i dont know anyone that can see whats going on inside someones body....if only the ref that night was as smart as you none of this would have ever happened....yet the poor old bbbc got fined for not having measley old medical supervision on close stand by !...aint no justice is there !....in the meantime maybe you could have a butchers at my old mum one of these days and let me know if and when cancers on the way......oh,and the lottery numbers for this wknd if your feeling generous !
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Personally i think you are a little more intelligent than you are letting on....if at the start of the 12th round you yourself could forsee that michael watson was going to slip into a coma and suffer permanent brain damage then you are clearly more of an expert than anybody there present that night or since...........as for the other nonsense,i dont think he would lose any sleep over somebody calling him names from their keyboard.......and personally i like and respect the man....so do it yourself !
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Ive found most of your thoughts on boxing matters very close to my own and have enjoyed reading them....but this i find disgusting,jimmy tibbs has forgot more about boxing and boxers than you or i will ever know...he is possibly the most respected british trainer of our generation.....and here you are questioning the mans heart......i have pictures here of his wedding day,his face busted to pieces.....cradling his son in his arms who himself went on to be a good pro....jimmys own career was based on heart overcoming a lack of technical ability yet he still went further than most....and did the
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jimmy tibbs decision to allow watson to come out for the last round was neither here nor there in relation to watsons permament brain damage......the damage was already done,and the ambulance was still going to take 30 minutes to reach him regardless.....like i said before....learn about a man before judging him,or just be the same as most sports fans and find someone to blame....anyone as long as a finger can be pointed....and to be honest,if you think jimmy tibbs would trick one of his fighters into brain damage just to get the win....then i find that disgusting and have no further interest
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" Trick ".....so your saying jimmy tricked watson into permanent brain damage ?.......like i said,learn something about a man before you judge him and if you want someone to blame.....then blame the people who were found guilty instead of targetting a decent family man highly respected in the toughest of sports.
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I think what needs to be remembered is it really doesnt matter what i think or you think......the high court made judgement and thats what its there for......the reason watson suffered permanent damage was NOT because he was out on his feet in the last round,NOT because the ref or jimmy tibbs allowed the fight to continue......it is because he did not recieve oxygen within the critical half hour following his collapse...this is not my opinion this is medical facts......now,whether tibbs had allowed his man to contnue a fight he was clearly winning but under tremendous pressure and out on his f
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17 years of hindsight is an easy thing to have and the tragedies of this fight brought about massive changes,remember this was at a time when there was not even rules for ambulance access at fights......had this happened today the odds are that watson would not have recieved permanent injuries,which is what was explained in the high court....jimmy tibbs was not blamed then and is not blamed now,neither was the referee or doctor.....this is an extremely tough often brutal sport and unfortunately tragedies have and will happen from time to time,thankfully there has not been a death in the ring s
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Jimmy is a stand up fella and a family man mate....he might have made that mistake from a boxing point but it wasnt a mistake from a lack of human care point of view.......the tragic consequences that followed were the result of it taking half hour to get oxygen to watson hence he sued the bbbc for 1 million....not tibbs fault......it also must be remembered that watson was well ahead going into that last round and natural human adrenalin and emotion hit us all.....what followed nobody would have wished on poor michael watson,especially jimmy tibbs as its well known he had fantastic relationsh
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I have to admit,as much as i do rate khan as an athlete....he really does need to button it and not get too carried away...one thing he said nearly made me piss my pants laughing..... " im 1.5 % bodyfat for this fight " .......i used to be a competetive bodybuilder and i could never get below 4 % for even a 2 hour comp without fainting !.....there is no way you could perform athletically under 5 % bodyfat and even sat in an armchair you couldnt be 1.5 % bodyfat without being dead first !....silly fxxxxr !
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My guess is your a little older than you sound......but not by much !........maybe you should have kept it simple and said YOU like mma best.
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Couldnt agree more....for people that have been on the dangerous side of the ropes some folk on here dont seem to know much about how the game of boxing works......some seem to think if a fighter go,s down as a youngster he is no good and never will be......some think that a green young kid should be fighting the worlds elite fighters just because he shows talent....for people that have apparently " done a bit " ....you dont seem to know an awful lot about the game ! I dont like khan the same as the next man but not for the same reasons as most.....however i appreciate a good young prospect a
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If he can keep a fight on its feet he will win....if he cant,he wont....not at top level anyway
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Because before he got hammered......thaxton priced himself out of a fight with khan
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[quote name='longdogrunner' date='Jun 22 2008, 02:53 PM' post='564954 gnasher, you're nearly as pedantic as me....... ........i'll do it A, B, C for you see if thats any clearer??? A= a boxer in a ring with a MMA fighter, going by boxing rules should win!!! B= an MMA fighter against a boxer in an octagon, playing by MMA rules, should win!!! C= the two of them in any setting using all their skills....who would win??? MMA in my view would be the victor, so therefore surely MMA is better!!!! Well seeing as you are so much brighter than me and you clearly know your a,b,
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I really think you need to remember what the ufc billed their organisation as back in the early 90,s......." cage fighting "....." no rules fighting "...the reason it was called no rules fighting was because it was supposed to be a fight without rules !!!....kick boxing,judo and of the fancy named martial arts....do what you like or what you need to do to win a fight......that was how they billed it.....if you can find any of the old interviews with any of the fighters around then you will get what they was saying.....it was not to see if karate would beat judo or boxing beat jui jitsu etc etc
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The fight should definately have been stopped,probably earlier than it actually was......gomez was stopping too many accurate unanswered punches.....some fighters are too brave for their own good and a fight stopped fractionally too early is always better than a fight stopped fractionally too late.....things were only going to get worse for gomez against a younger stronger fitter and most importantly....bigger opponent.....the better fighter won so why risk serious injury to a guy who most probably would not have taken the easy way out.
