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Everything posted by gnasher16
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Personally i think we all get too involved in judging tysons private life rather than what he became famous for...boxing !...im no counsellor or psycho therapist but i do believe i know a little about boxing and prefer to judge a man on what he does inside the ropes rather than outside...if he couldnt hack it as a top sportsman for whatever reason then so be it,but dont give him it as an excuse.....it seems the tyson nuthuggers always want to rub his belly about the hard times he faced and then brush the fact that he was a child molesting rapist ( possibly ) under the carpet.....if you do want
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nice example there jasp. worth an absolute fortune these days. i had a mk1 rs2000 back in 84...sold it to a mate for 900......it sold for 13k a few years back !!
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gaz most of what you say i totally agree with.....i agree,tyson was great in his prime....but then so was ali in his,frazier in his,louis in his etc etc......but to go down as an all time great you have to have beaten other great fighters thats just common sense...and tyson didnt !.....lets be honest trevor berbick,bonecrusher smith,tubbs,biggs etc etc in any other era apart from that one would not even have been top ten fighters...so it really doesnt prove anything other than the fact tyson dispatched them with unquestionable power....but that doesnt make him an all time great fighter......in
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i wasnt having that much of a pop , and if offended you sorry , the problem i had , is how do you know there isnt a member of her family on this site , it is very possible? ... we dont know ... but i think you did the right thing by removing it , and i do have a sense of humour , but not at a little girls expence ... ok mate fair enough.....just to point out,the joke was actually at the expense of a football team not a little girl...but point taken
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It always amazes me why people are so hell bent on giving tyson so many excuses for losing.....he wasnt the only fighter to have problems outside the ring....he didnt have half the problems ali had,yet did you see ali biting peoples ears off because he couldnt beat them ?....when tyson lost to buster douglas everyone was banging on about the death of jacobs and his leech of a wife.....douglas lost his mother 13 days before the tyson fight ! Part of what makes a great fighter is mental strength as well as physical strength,tysons downfall was the fact he was a mentally weak cur......when fight
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there you go pal.....personally i think your being a little senitive,if nobody ever told a joke due to the possibility it may be offensive to someone there would never be jokes !...but,i wouldnt purposely offend anyone so....removed and apologies.
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A famous old fight commentator once said...." you judge a fighter as great buy the great fights and great fighters he had and beat " Tyson fought 2 fighters who although not greats on an all time scale were great in their own era.....and he lost convincingly to both of them....and in his own era of dominance tyson never fought anybody good let alone great...and was dominant at a time when the division was at its all time weakest....wbc champ was trevor berbick ! wba champ was bonecrusher smith ! ibf champ was michael spinks !....top challengers were frank bruno,tony tubbs,carl williams etc
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Thanks for the replies,i knew i was right all along ...next time i,ll shout " rule 53 " at them.... In fairness there probably wasnt anywhere sensible they could have pulled in,BUT had they simply gone single file there would have been more than enough room,i even thought of trying to go through the middle at one stage,but didnt want to clip them,not the animals thought i suppose ....couldnt even abuse them at the end of the road as they dissapeared into the forest
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Driving down a narrow but reasonably busy road this morning i had the misfortune to be stuck behind 2 horses with a stuck up female on each....side by side refusing to move meaning a 2 mile road took me near on 15 minutes to reach the end.....normally im happy to slow down,stop or whatever it takes to be polite.....having politely ( but relatively loudly ) asked them to move over or at the least go single file my reply was " why should we theres no law against it "......is there or not does anyone know ?......only because im getting too old for it did i manage to resist some sort of road/horse
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one of the little baxxxxds came after me yesterday,it was the size of a table tennis ball,i shit you not !...i havent moved so fast in years
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Lets pull no punches...steroids WILL give an athlete an edge over his competition....but ONLY if nobody else in the race is taking them !...look back to ben johnsons freakishly quick win in the 88 ? olympics...my bet is not many of the other athletes were taking...... Dwain chambers certainly wasnt head and shoulders above the others when he got caught....maybe he just wasnt as great an athlete by nature,but my bet is that the top races he had the other 7 sprinters were all doing the same so it evens out.... you only need look at the body of top sprinters today compared to the 70,s or ,s...b
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I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE PAPERS IF SOMEONE PUT FORWARD THE IDEA OF WHITE POLICEMANS ASSOCIATION, OR A STRAIGHT POLICEMANS!!!!!! how about " the normal bloke in the streets association" ? nope course not....if your normal you count for nothing these days !..... bisexual,homosexual,immigrant,black,pervert,junkie or a mixture of them all theres a self help group or an association for you somewhere....normal white english bloke?...... who cares about them !
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! If you are talking about me, THEN f*****g WELL SAY SO. I cannot stand namby pamby people who beat about the bush. If you have a problem with my moderating, then say so...directly to Ian B...otherwise...f**k off. . Fortunately or unfortunately i have come across your sort before...and through experience i know that telling them the truth does no good.....yes i have a problem with your moderating but to be honest its not that high on my list of " things to do " priorities to run off and tell the teacher my problems.......as a sensible and truth speaking person i would think i
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As usual,the moment a man stands up and says he is proud of his country,is a nationalist or anything similar,he is termed a racist by the dogooders.....pride in your country and racism are NOT the same thing...just because pride in your country may be offensive to immigrants those kind of posts are removed by the moderator....yet in his own words,racist name calling posts will be removed and the person banned....a whole topic was removed where several people myself included discussed a similar topic where no racial slurs or name calling took place whatsoever,in fact it was a relatively eye ope
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Really you can only blame whoever it was who gave him the ban...if you ban a man for life then he will never run again,ban him for a few years then why complain when he decides to race again....he served his time and if now clean and competing at the necessary level then why not race....also,lets not forget that chambers only got banned because he got caught,if we banned every athlete taking gear there would be no top class athletics!
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What about Don "The Cobra" Curry, "Marvellous" Marvin Hagler, "Sugar" Ray Leonard and John "The Beast" Magabe, all around at the same time and in the same weight divisions? Don Curry was awesome,but one day he met a lad called Lloyd Honeyghan and he was never the same after Note the common denominator in the british names mentioned above....mickey duff...he had Lloyd honeyghan and john mugabe at a time when yanks didnt take fights with brits too easily,particularly top names like don curry and hagler,but still duff got them the fights....he also got cornelius boza edwards a fig
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Think your find he is a gonner bill....i was told he overdosed on a bit of everything in the north of england somewhere.....im not stating a fact mind you its just what i was told,nobody seems to know which kind of sums up the sadness of the man and his career.....when you met him did you understand a word he said, funny as fxxk some of his post fight interviews Jasp pernell whittaker ( sweet pea i believe they called him ? )...was a great little fighter,was robbed in my opinion of 2 decisions in big fights with chavez and de lahoya and never got a rematch with either which says a lot.
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quote] Kirkland Laing (rip) wasted talent. Wasted talent is right....im told he lived on the streets of hackney with his partner " special brew " in much of his last years...shame,great fights with colin jones.
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In my opinion thats what made leonard special,the way he could adapt to any style,from a workhorse like hagler or duran to a power puncher like hearns...leonard always found a way to win....didnt beat hagler ? personally i gave hagler about 3 rounds at most....hagler was hot favorite to win that fight after leonard being out the ring a few years....the lalonde fight was at light heavy but also for the vacant super middle leonard who started as a welter was fighting a full blooded light heavy....a very limited fighter but a world champ nonetheless and got up off the canvas twice if i remember r
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Might be a different attack but just heard a " staffordshire bull terrier type " is to be pts following the attack on a small child.....the 18 year old owner has been arrested. Didnt know they was placing staffords into the " type " category now...im amazed it wasnt reported as pit bull type
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If you ever saw his hair you would realise that wig was not far off mate
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The duran/leonard/hagler/hearns fights was probably my favorite era in boxing..... you will like this one jasper,who was the only man to beat them all ?...Sugar ray Leonard Fair enough he lost the first duran fight but those early and mid ,s fights were for me when boxing was at a peak as a sport,certainly in my life time anyway....also holmes/cooney was i think 82...hagler/hearns was 85...wee barry was at the top....whats your favorite era lads ?
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ok Jasp,lets pretend tyson was not a cur,which lets make no mistake about,he was !...and having failed to intimidate lewis it was now a straight boxing match.....lets look at tysons career,even from the start stylistically he struggled with exceptionally tall guys,which lewis was,he also struggled with opponents with a strong jab,which lewis had.....couple this with the fact that probably the best opponent tyson faced was either a pumped up light heavyweight champ in michael spinks or an ancient larry holmes....so where are the credible opponents tyson beat and what would suggest he would have