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Thats because he doesnt match dogs any more......but if you win a match tomorrow with a Maurice Carver line dog that you bought off Tom Garner you still have a Carver bred dog Chinaman and Frisco have been the base of Tom Garners bloodline for 40 odd years....and both Chinaman and Frisco were Eli/Carver dogs......it is what it is ! At what point do dogs become your own line ?.....again,you are just being silly mate you might as well say that near every Apbt in existence is an Earl Tudor dog seeing as probably 75% of the modern breed came through Tudors Dibo.

It dont bother me squire i just clocked 2 or 3 of your posts digging out the English so presumed you was after a bite. What,and thats it.....Scottish men kicked a ball from one man to the other first so they invented the modern game of football Its like saying Adam once gave Eve a clump so the Middle East invented Boxing ffs !! Yeah i think i'll be sticking with Google on this one

Didnt Chas give it the title a few years ago to celebrate its 150th year i seem to remember reading somewhere.

How the Rspca are not all over dog shows and the Uk Kennel Club in general is absolutely farcical........when it suits eh !

Out of curiosity how many 100 dog yards have you been on ?.....lets say even 20 dog yards ? Have you any idea just how much dedication and diligence it takes to get a dog in match shape ?.....very few yards with 100 dogs will be matching them regular as it takes more time and effort to get 1 dog ready for 1 match than it takes to feed and water 100 dogs. What on earth are you talking about he didnt work Eli and wasnt Carver..........what so nobody has ever had Carver dogs apart from Carver....you're talking in riddles,your version of a dogman clearly differs to mine......you are just

Its what strength of character does mate.....honest values go a long way some of us have never budged an inch on these things over the years and thats because we have truly always believed in what we was saying. We was always taught that admitting wrong is how growth takes place ?....well in mate good for you.

And there we have it.....somebody who once booked themself as " right wing " telling someone else who is right wing,that we should compromise our morals and values because it " didnt work " ffs !!........and you cant see the pattern in following a man like Farage once claiming to be " right wing " but now appealing to the Muslim vote ffs ! For educated wordly people like some of you's........you are very easily led !! Without wishing to offend anyone....its weak,pathetic and actually deserves nothing whatsoever in terms of change.

Honestly....i just dont understand what it is you folk see in Reform that is " right " in anything other than a made up " media description "......in terms of real basic human inquisitiveness does it not make you curious as to why the media have ploughed this whole " right wing " description on Farage and Reform yet are keeping Lowe and Restore hushed away and are silent on them ? My guess is that they want to keep society away from true " right wing " policies and keep you's all focused on this made up version of " right wing "......hence folk like me describing Farage/Reform as nothing

I love the way some of you lads have come full circle i remember years ago you telling me Nationalism could never work Wilf....how lads like Griffin were dead and we all had to put a shirt and tie on and be a lot more sensible about our approach Everything Nationalism was saying then has come true,the knuckle draggers were right all along.....if it wasnt so tragic it would be f****n hilarious.

I said a few weeks ago on here if Lowe and Restore do nothing else they will force Reform further right than they really wanted to go.

Plenty of 100 dog yards across the world have never produced a Ch in top level competition....not entirely sure how you can class lines of dogs that have never stepped foot in Britain in over a hundred years as British dogs but still Regardless whether a person dislikes his pedigrees or dislikes the man himself there can be no disputing dogs like Ch Chinaman ,Frisco,Lee Ling,El Negro,Santos,Hickory,Spike,Bobby Peru more recently in Uk and Europe are some of the best Eli/Carver crosses of modern times....again,the man has dedicated his life to the breed and to call him a puppy peddler is

Thats a silly comment.......while i dont really know what Garner is babbling on about here there can be no doubt as to the importance of Tom Garners contribution to the Apbt breed over the last 40 odd years,the man has put some great dogs out into the Gamedog world and without people like him who have dedicated their lives to dogs the breed would never have produced many of the amazing athletes we see before us.

Just clocked a few of your English hating posts you're clearly looking for a bite so lets give it to you.....how are you working out that the Scots invented football ? I was always of the understanding it was something to do with the Ebenezer chap who founded Barnes Fc.....the only reason thats stuck in my mind all this time is because the local East London boys club Senrab who have produced many top class pro's over the years were named after the backward spelling of Barnes Fc....maybe you can enlighten us all ?

Amazing......The Royal Kennel Club of Uk " Lets create and encourage the breeding of some of the unhealthiest ridiculous looking dog breeds known to man and then when the government ban them we can blame the public for breeding them "........shower of c**ts !

A more realistic punishment would be to simply imprison them within the general population of a prison and let nature take its course.