Danny,you seemed to have the hump since i said about you breeding from a bitch that was not tested ,but she did rag a dead fox :laugh: :laugh: ,i have let someone down ,who? every one you passed them pups on to you let down,and where i have said that the wheaten has drawed anything,that bitch is 16" and has been dug to in plenty of the right sort of earths,we work alot of sandy ground with big holes that lurchers could fit to ground in,plus we use wheatens while out working cover and that pic has been up a few times and before you got the hump you only had good things to say about it,Sure i