I had been training dogs since I was 12 years old. I thought I had had a fair measure of sucssess. Then I tried training my first GWP and all that I had learnt in that 30 odd years went out the window. Training HPR is a totally different kettle of fish to other gundogs.
If you are used to training Labs Spaniels etc, allowing, ney encouraging a dog to work 200 yards away from you is a bit of a shock to the system. Also the dogs disposition of, yep Ill do it, but in my time. Can have you pulling your hair out by the handfull. Most HPR's even though they seem pretty thick skinned, are really