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  1. Point Blank Range. The distance you can hold dead on and the bullet is within the kill zone either above or below the line of sight. In this case it's over 300 yards. That said nearly all my shots are taken well within 150 anyway. As such it does seem a little pointless for me personally considering the extra cost over a 223. We live an learn.
  2. There will be no difference in POI from one position to the other. Unless, for some reason the bipod is causing the stock to touch the barrel, or as previously mentioned you're suffering from bipod 'hop', but that's more like a 'pull' than a change in POI. Try loading the bipod by applying significant forward pressure, it will cure the 'hop' issues provided the feet grip whatever hard surface you're shooting off. It also helps manage recoil and makes it easier to see the bullet strike. I zero my 22-250 one inch high at 110 yards which leaves me bang on at about 200 and gives me a sill
  3. Correct, if anything a mod is more likely to increase MV. I have a DM80 MK3 .17 specific mod and although it's much, much quieter than a SAK and produces tighter groups, it is still being eaten. They are still alloy inside unlike Dave's centrefire mods which are stainless. Top bit of kit and imho worth the extra cash over a SAK for the HMR. SAK does just fine for a 22 with subs though.
  4. 160 in the noggin ain't too shabby either. Nice shooting.
  5. According to Dr. Cox and presumably others, gravity isn't even constant, there are hot spots and they continually shift, almost like the flow of water. It's a miracle we hit anything except the floor considering the variables.
  6. this is true john...... i took 5 rabbits out and they hadn't a clue where the shots where coming from...... the .17hmr is inherently more accurate.... the only down side is cost, but for the extended range you can take bunnies at i think its worth it... Snap. I've even stopped using a moderator on the HMR as it seems to make little difference to the spectators and helps maintain POI. I noticed the POI shifting every time I cleaned the mod. I think it had more to do with how tight it was then screwed back on. Took the mod off permanently and now often have ra
  7. Perceived maybe, but it's actually better. Prehaps the increased distance we shoot over with the HMR gives the impression of a less slippery bc, but shoot both back to back at 100yds in a full value wind and you'll see the HMR actually bucks the wind better. As for accuracy, 100 yards is a tricky distance, the HMR is definitely an easier and inherantly more accurate caliber at that range but at 60yards or less it can easily be matched and in most cases bettered by a decent .22lr. If most of your likely targets will be between 20 and 70 yards, .22 for sure, if it's more a case of 50-10
  8. Perceived maybe, but it's actually better. Prehaps the increased distance we shoot over with the HMR gives the impression of a less slippery bc, but shoot both back to back at 100yds in a full value wind and you'll see the HMR actually bucks the wind better. As for accuracy, 100 yards is a tricky distance, the HMR is definitely an easier and inherantly more accurate caliber at that range but at 60yards or less it can easily be matched and in most cases bettered by a decent .22lr. If most of your likely targets will be between 20 and 70 yards, .22 for sure, if it's more a case of 50-10
  9. Cheapest, but possibly not the 'best'. It depends on your definition of 'best'.
  10. Top work all round, especially the shooting. Sometimes harder at 20yds than 40 or 50 when they're running. Do you have adjustable magnification? I doubt you'd of had much time to fiddle with it anyway. Good post, cheers.
  11. Obviously all personal preference, but, have a think about whether you need adjustable parralax on a .22lr. It's a quick point and shoot rifle for me, using IR for speedy target acquisition under a lamp. I had a parralax adjustable Leupold sans IR on it for a while and I found it to be less appropriate for the caliber than my cheap and nasty Hawke Nite-Eye. The Leupold is far happier sat on the HMR which can make better use of the quality and ability to fine-tune the picture. Just a thought. Steve
  12. Err.... so in effect it doesn't hit as hard, but maybe as fast. Good tool no doubt though.
  13. On the lefthand side of the barrel an inch infront of the caliber stamp. The year has a little hall mark stlye symbol next to it, well it does on mine. Steve
  14. On the other hand, I bought a "nearly new" secondhand CZ 17HMR from a reptutable dealer and it wouldn't shoot for sh1t. Thankfully the dealer gave me my cash back and I bought a new Sako which has been faultles. It's now the rifle that spends the least amount of time in the cabinet. Obviously all previous owners aren't the same, but now I'll always buy new. My worry will always be that if the rifle is good, why's he selling it? Steve
  15. So what do you do when a rabbit isn't conveniently sitting at your zero range? Guess the hold over? Even a blind squirrel finds the odd nut.
  16. Half the problem is that as with most things, cars, motorbikes, computers, the manufacturers tend to exagerate their published figures. Which I suspect is why Deker has found most to be inaccurate, as well as all the variables you mention D. But, and there's no getting away from it, the physics work if you apply the right numbers in the first place. The ONLY way to be sure of drops and drifts is obviously through field work. However once you have plotted the genuine path of the bullet and matched it to a drag function, you will have the exact number of clicks for every single yard out
  17. A BC of .115, MV of 1060 gives me the closest match to how Eleys perform through my 16" CZ with SAK mod and with a sight height 1.377" above the bore. That's using the G1 drag formula. This works right the way out to 200yds although the poor inherent accuracy of the 22LR bullet means actually hitting a bunny is still more luck than judgement passed about 120yds. I find the biggest challenge correctly estimating the wind speed all the way to target, at the split second you squeeze the trigger. Although the HMR still moves a fair old distance, I personally find it more predictable.
  18. Hi Clive, With virtually the exact same set-up and zero Eleys drop a measured 26" at 150yds and are dragged a full 10" downwind at the same distance with a 10mph wind, again tested. Your wind figures are even better than my HMR can achieve, which dispite popular opinion is much better in the wind than the Eley 22LR round. Again this is according to my tape measure, not just charts. Altough in fairness the charts are very close for Hornaday's 17g load figures. Wish my 22 was as flat and slippery as yours. Cheers, Steve.
  19. Hi Clive, nice stock. What wind speed is the drop chart for, 4mph? Are you using a moderator? What length is the barrel? Sorry for the barrage but Eleys through my CZ don't perform nearly as well as they do through yours, which is a bit annoying. Cheers, Steve.
  20. Fair enough pal, must have dreamt it. Never shot a Hare at night because I thought it was a no no, and I see them nearly every night. They might not be so lucky in the future. What's the deal with shooting Hares on a Sunday? Have I dreamt this as well? Steve
  21. Isn't lamping Hares illegal, or am I getting confused with taking them on a Sunday? Plus aren't you supposed to hang them with the guts in? Steve
  22. Any that aren't fit for the butcher or that are surplus I take to the local zoos and rare breed centres. Most use between 20 and 40 rabbits a day so literally can't get enough of them. They pay a not so good £0.75 per bunny gutted, compared to double that from the butchers but at least they're not going to waste. Steve
  23. Like Mr. L, I barely ever lamped from a vehicle. Just under 30 was my biggest bag on foot. Decided to buy this little beauty; and the first night out with it on my own, shooting from both windows with a gun mounted lamp and side lights on, this happened; Now I shoot from it whenever the conditions allow as the customer usually gets better results. Can't fault it as a tool with the possible exception of 28mpg average, and all the gutting! Cheers, Steve.
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