Exactly.Its always gone on and always will.Most of the big names in the APBT,working terrier game that are so often talked about and held in high regard were little more than peddlers churning out multiple litters a year out of bitches that spent their whole live sat in a pen or on the end of a chain.Something I have noticed with a few of these lads Ive seen selling these new silly coloured breeds for big money is they're not scared to put their hands in their pockets and buy the best to keep their breeding stock in tip top condition.Unlike 80% of the so called terrier/lurcher men Ive met over