Thank You fred, unfortunately todays market veers to quick sets making experts in longnetting, did you come in and see my longnets? hung up waiting for the top and bottom lines (which were done over the weekend) the amount of visitors that commented on the nets proved there are still some dedicated long netters about . my nets are made end to end by hand NOT sheet netting using linen from the footwear and saddlery makers, mainly Barbours Lisburn N.I. i get regularly comments about it will rot like hemp, Dr Marten soles never fell of or saddles fall apart. Any way Good Luck fred