mate, i wish you all the best of luck, when i started up no f****r would help you, all top secret, secret lines " your not in the game" etc etc, so in short, how the f**k ppl expect new lads wanting to start up is beyond me, its almost like the mafia, you may have to resort to some eggs off ebay to start with mate. Eventually, after about 2 years pestering someone, he relented and gave me a few pullets, i found a stag or two and im away. But dont expect to be paying egg layer prices for these birds, they are not cheap, IF you can find someone to sell you some. I wish you all the best of luck w