thats right duckwing,there,s alot of old lads out there who would love to get out on a dig,but age catches up with every man,but there offspring carry on,gouldy,britemore,parkes,g richards,middleton,gripton,all these men have dug tons of stuff over the years,and i think we owe them all some respect,yes there will be some bad stock about,but alot more good than bad,give them all a pat on the back ,alot of our (todays) origins are from these great terriermen.