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given that you have a 222, and are thinking about reaching out that bit further, 22-250 may be better for you. 223 is a good calibre, better than 222 in terms of energy, but the difference is so slight it's not worth changing from one to the other, merely that if you have neither, 223 is the one to get. 22-250 will give you a good bit more velocity than either one, and as such represents something properly different.
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Well new brass seems to have worked, 44gr of AA4350 (am saving H414 for heavier bullets) and the 80gr SBT and no pressure signs. Good group, too. Now in Winchester brass.
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Grouping & My First fox with my reloads!!
Mr_Logic replied to blackfox's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
That's looking promising! What length is your barrel under all that mod?! Edit... that's well over Hodgdon's max load - are you getting pressure signs? I suspect, from a 26" barrel anyway, that your velocities are nuzzling more like 3,8 or 3,9. -
Calibre Differences on ticket
Mr_Logic replied to firepower's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
And does it shoot straight? I've not heard good things about either WSSM calibre. -
You are COMPLETELY missing the point. Nobody is saying that the fox in question was killed in any way but humanely. However, your comments, basically summarised as "HMR is awesome and it kills anything" are the sorts of comments that lead to longer shots on foxes in the future, and thus injured foxes. It is those comments that I am criticising because you're talking crap, and you NEED to listen in order to avoid issues IN THE FUTURE. And if you are shooting on 8000 acres, you need a bigger gun anyway - you will have those longer shots, very soon you will find the HMR restrictive as 100 yar
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Mine ended up with a JetZ CQB which it shares with .223, works very well.
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OK, when I get a mo I will do that and let you know.
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Yep, mine does that too - considering people say that Hornet is "inherently inaccurate", I have to disagree! Mine shot a 4-shot half inch group at 225 yards...
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UNfortunately camokid, looks like you are going to have to learn the hard way. Shame about the fox that you will injure by not knowing your rifle's limitations. Even bigger shame that you aren't responsible enough to heed sound advice. I'm not saying that you should not shoot the odd fox with HMR, because it will work if used correctly. However, with the attitude "This HMR will stop anything" you will inevitably run into trouble because that's utter tripe. If you were prepared to accept the round's limitations, because, on the grand scheme of things, it's just a popgun, then you could use
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My worry is simply that you will see HMR work on rabbits and push the distance out, forgetting that it's a tiny little round with hardly any energy, and that leads to woundings. Trust me, I learned the hard way. That's why I say it's OK for occasional use, but if you're serious about knocking over Charlie as a primary concern on a night's shooting, then take a bigger gun.
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Guys, HMR = not really a fox round, please make sure of close range and clean kills OK, we don't want maimed animals being found by the fluffies - we will suffer, and the animal will suffer - so either use a proper gun or be very careful?
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I will echo Charlie's comments about Hornet. I have one with a cut-down barrel which gives me 3000+ fps with 12.3 gr H110 and a 35gr v-max. Also shoots clover-leaf groups at 100 yards, and is also a CZ527. I would disagree about it being all the rifle you'll need for foxing though. I prefer my .223 for 'general purpose' foxing because it does go that bit further, and uses a heavier bullet so hits much harder when it does arrive. The Hornet is a great rifle still though as I shoot rabbits with it, and also foxes depending on the farm - I do a lot of shooting near horses. Mostly the horses d
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HMR = rabbit round, please be very careful shooting foxes with it. It is actually a low-powered little tool, which definitely has its uses. Enjoy it, but don't go stupid with it - it's not a wonder-round.
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Excuse the relative newbie here, what's a shoulder datum when it's at home?!
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Ok so to do that I literally take a fired case, fill it with water, weigh that and that's what you're after?
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Thanks HZ. And that's out of a 22-inch barrel?
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Blued barrels don't really take any more looking after than stainless ones. If it gets wet, get home, take apart, wipe down with oily rag. Stainless isn't truly stainless so if you get one wet and leave it, it too will go orange. Where you win with stainless barrels is increased wear resistance - so they tell me, all things being equal a stainless barrel will suffer less throat erosion with the big CF calibres. However, personally I don't think there's a lot to worry about. Get whichever, keep it clean, oil it if you are out in the rain, job done. Synthetic stocks, on the other han
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Need the guys doing the culling to sue for libel?
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The 43gr load was chronoing around 3050-3075, getting more variance than I would like also. 22" barrel likely explains the velocity loss. But I did try that very same load (same COL, same case length, same powder charge, same primer) in a Winchester case (only have 1 right now, 200 more are on their way!) and I didn't get so much as a stiff bolt. It's still very odd...
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I don't have one... I will take your word, so you'd recommend I get something better than my Lee .308 dies for 1000 yard target reloading then?
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Right, regarding the 5.56, it is a well known and much publicised fact that 5.56 in a rifle chambered only for .223 is potentially dangerous and is not to be recommended. 7.62 in 308 will work just fine - 7.62 has lower pressures than .308. I'd have thought you'd have known that? Article on such things Here
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i passed my DSC level 1 wooohooo
Mr_Logic replied to langouroux's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Congrats Langouroux A 308 will be fine for anything you need to do. It's not nasty to shoot, not sure why people say it is - other half shoots mine no problem and she's 5'5" and small built! In terms of drop, with a decent load and 150gr ballistic tip, it's not too bad at all really - comparable with anything much except the recognised fast calibres. -
I had a 4-12x42. It was OK, nothing special though.
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Hi graham, they had already been trimmed and measured to 2.035". needed to trim that Winchester case also.
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Got what looks like pressure signs with some very moderate loads of other stuff. Remembered I had Winchester 55gr factory load (just the one!) left in the cabinet - so fired that into the ground in the garden, absolutely fine. Made a 43gr H414-based load into that case, and tested that too, also fine. New brass to be ordered tomorrow!