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  1. Mr_Logic
    My cheapest 22-250 ammo that works well is Federal 55gr softpoint at 15-17 per 20. Prvi Partizan is much cheaper but 3" groups at 100 yards meant I gave up! Still use it for initial zeroing though (I bought 100, still got some left!). 223 ammunition is a similar price for US factory, but many people swear by 55gr soft/hollow point Wolf and Barnaul, much of which is Russian stuff. To me, if it works and it stops a fox I'm happy. One day if I shoot targets more seriously I might need more expensive ammo, but that's what I like about 223 - there's such a choice without reloading. 243 I am
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    As mentioned in PM, yep, pretty much. If you have never fired a rifle before I would consider joining a club anyway, you will learn a lot. The FEO will be nervous of granting it if you haven't fired a weapon before, so you will have to talk to him about safety. Shotguns should help you there though, I wouldn't be overly concerned. Club will teach you all you need to know about firearms handling, and like I said, it really is a good idea.
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    BASC says 100 grain for deer in Northern Ireland. 100 grain for big deer in Scotland, 50 grain for roe deer. England it must be 243 or bigger (OK, 240, but there isn't one ) and have 1700 ft/lbs. The energy requirement seems to be stable across the countries. Odd that people do 243s that don't stabilize a 100-grain bullet. But then, it's a varmint calibre that does deer, or so they tell me. Certainly mine will be, likely 75-grain - should do both. (or not? I know nothing yet )
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    Two ways of doing it. 1. Join a rifle club and shoot targets. You will need to be a full member before you get a rifle of your own, typically six-month probationary membership first. 2. Get permission over some land, get a rifle to shoot animals. Animals are more fun IMHO, but target shooting's good too.
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    Had my FEO visit today for the 223 variation (actually, they'd lost that one, he thought he was just here to approve me for a Sako Quad ) and he is happy with 223 and 243 for fox, 223 for small deer and 243 for bigger deer. Looks like I can shoot small deer with no mentor or DSC, the 243 requires a mentor or DSC (they are sorting out which) for the deer, but is OK for fox. So... my final requirements are: * Rifle for target work at the range, not a particularly serious one, and not very long distance (Deker - your club - max of 400 yards sound fair?) * Rifle for medium range foxin
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    Ooooh, that's pretty horrible. The odd bad report with Tikka makes me think of CZ, because apart from the trigger, I never hear "i have/had a CZ and it didn't group" - they are always accurate rifles. Just with a somewhat suspect trigger... You haven't looked at that DVD I lent you yet have you.....it shows Derek Edgar in a starring role (as a comedian) Funnily enough, I had a look this morning - it's the worst thing in the whole world, I had to give up in disgust
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    Ooooh, that's pretty horrible. The odd bad report with Tikka makes me think of CZ, because apart from the trigger, I never hear "i have/had a CZ and it didn't group" - they are always accurate rifles. Just with a somewhat suspect trigger...
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    Money, really. My Sako 75 Varmint is a lovely rifle, but at a quid a bang it costs a fortune. I also can't shoot targets with it because it's such a quick calibre. I can't reload because I live in the tiniest shoebox known to man, and I don't have any space for all the bits. I want something to do targets and foxes, can't justify a rifle for each - don't shoot enough foxes or targets to warrant it. Tbh, I haven't decided for 100% that the Sako is going, just that I will get a 223. Thing is, I can't see the point in 22-250 when I have 223, because the extra hundred yards I get don't mat
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    Cool Thanks for that. Might well change the purchase somewhat...
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    Thinking about it, the rabbit in 'dispute' (because it was very blatant ) actually got away, since Deker shot at it, it ran, stopped and I shot at it. The dead rabbit was actually the one I shot before Deker saw one...
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    I'm deciding which rifle to get in 223 to replace my 22-250 for foxing and target work. I've been set on a heavy barrel thus far, my Sako is and it's lovely. However, I can't afford that kind of money again, so the next one will be Tikka/CZ etc. In a Tikka, you don't get heavy barrel with laminate or wood, just icky plastic. I'll have a plastic stock if I have to, but I like wood of some variety. So I thought, what about the Hunter? That's wood but has a light barrel. So, how much do I lose out on by getting a lighter barrel, given my intended use above? Cheers muchly
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    LOL
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    It is very loud unmoderated. As for it being 'a hell of a kick'... well, if you have only ever fired a 22LR then maybe. It kicks, you can feel it. But that's it. My other half is pretty small, she loves it and now she has fired it doesn't mind at all (before she fired it, it was 'loud and scary, and will it hurt my shoulder?' )
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    At the cheap end of the scale, Nikko do a 6-24 Nighteater that'll be pretty good (have their 4-16 and that's decent). for a bit more money I have the MTC 6-24x56, which now I have one without a dusty reticle is brilliant. Both are 30mm. I can't wait to use it in anger but I need a moderator on the 22-250 first
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    yep, in that situation Muttley cops a bullet....
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    Nice shooting 243 makes a mess of foxy then
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    Let's be honest here, bunnies die with whatever we can lay our hands on at the time - be it an air rifle or a 50BMG. For me anyway, the benchmark for a calibre's power is 'what happens when this hits a rabbit?' it's not very scientific, but it's fun
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    I can't go there, I'm banned for life Join the club Who isn't? Does anyone ever agree with the moderators for long enough to stay?!
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    Apply for .22LR and 17 HMR (or 22 WMR, esp if you might be after foxes in the future). You could try .22 Hornet, they are meant to grant for rabbits and will mean if and when you want a bigger calibre you can say you have been shooting centrefire for ages Don't see the need or point for air rifle in your situation, 22LR gets the job done better and is much cheaper and more convenient. If I had to pick I would err with 22LR and 22 Hornet if there is the slightest chance of foxes, and they are much better at longer ranges in any kind of wind. 400 acres, i can't see too much of a problem
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    I rang the BASC to check this a little while ago. Can't remember the details but the upshot is that if you go out with someone who has an FAC, and use their rifle under supervision (and that doesn't have to be close supervision), then that's fine. BASC man told me that if anyone else thought differently, aim them at BASC and they would be put right So you're fine.
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    Well, the firearms folk work in mysterious ways. I understand and probably agree with you not getting the 22-250 on an open ticket - they go a bloody long way and pack a lot of punch. I don't get the mentoring angle though. if you've fired over 3000 rounds of 17HMR you know where to shoot and where not to, especially on bits of land they approve. So it might be worth asking FLO why he wants you to have a mentor. Point out to him that you appreciate the grunt of 22-250, but that a safe backstop is a safe backstop. Failing that, BASC or someone to see if anything can be done. Sadly, FEO
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    Right or wrong, the standard standpoint is that your attitude should be 'walk away'. They will be concerned, thinking about what if someone threatened you with a gun? I don't know or pretend to know the circumstances, but to the firearms people everything tends to be in black and white, irrespective of reality. Try it, they might be having an unusally logical day...
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    Me again...help clarify the one in red please. Fixing a Bipod etc to many guns effects the POI. If we assume the ammo remains constant and the surface the bipod is resting on remains constant and the gun is zeroed to this point why will the POI not remain constant as the oscillation should remain constant, or am I missing something? Thanks Deker Don't ask me the physics, but it's the same reason as free-floating barrels are good. If they oscillate freely it's better, but I don't know why because I am only a humble archaeologist and don't speak physics beyond GCSE Bipod always af
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    Couldn't resist the bait... 22 Hornet is an old round, I can't argue with that. But it still does a better job for certain things than any of the other 22 centrefires. The reason is very simple - if I shoot a bunny with a 222, 223, 22-250 softpoint or ballistic tip, said bunny rabbit is likely going to be extremely messy. if I shoot it with a Hornet it's not great but it's definitely better. On foxes, Hornet does you comfortably to 175 yards, after which it drops off. If you have 3000 acres to shoot on, you're lucky. Round here, acres is a big shoot, so the flat shooting calibres have sa
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    My 10/22T cycles every subsonic it's seen, I've had about 2 jams in 300 rounds. It's accurate, well balanced, well made and the trigger is good enough for hunting (i.e. a lot better than the standard one which is truly awful).
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