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  1. Mr_Logic
    And how often is there a day with next to no wind in this country? Anything is possible in ideal conditions, but reality is that a 5 inch drift at a 2inch target at 200yrds in a 10mph wind is still a pretty big drift. It's a hit or miss situation, with the wind a lot of the time is more than 10mph. It will be possible on those still days but not much good in other conditions. Actually I've found it's much rarer than you think, for the wind to be 10mph+ constantly. Gusts are pretty common, but a solid 10mph wind much less so. While the 5-inches is a fair amount, what is more impo
  2. Mr_Logic
    Right, given calm conditions, a 2-inch target is pretty big, even at 200 yards. That's the Hornet's problem - wind. Even a light breeze will push it off, and it's difficult to estimate that in the field, especially at night. I had a calm day when I set up my new (was then!) scope, shot a 1-inch group at 200, and then excelled myself with the 1/2" group at 225 yards. So it can be done, but the wind sensitivity is the issue. Give it a bit of breeze and your drift makes life nigh-on impossible. Hence the 223 argument, or 204, or 17 Rem Fireball. Hornet: 200 yard drift - 14 inches
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    17 Remington Fireball is meant to be good, would do the job for you nicely. Tbh I am considering one in the very distant future, when I have more money than sense! The Hornet is a a good round, but it's only ever a medium sort of range - 200 yards is your lot, and the windage isn't nice that far out.
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    If you can hit the fox with the more loopy trajectories then sure the others will work, they have plenty of energy. But in terms of a useful foxing round, for night work and so on, too much adjustment required. 243 with light bullets wins hands down. In terms of inexperience, I'll admit to red deer, but on foxes and roe, sorry Vim, you're talking rubbish again.
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    I am considering selling it. It has been used mainly as a range rifle for a while, and then kept mainly for the other half who has moaned about recoil. Now she has toughened up and shoots .308, might be able to sell. I am getting another .308 for me shortly, so if that works out there is every possibility that I will indeed sell the Remington.
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    Yes lets not eh Logic.. Only recommend what you have had experience with that way every one gets the truth.. For an all round Deer rifle you need to be looking for something a little stronger than a 243 Bert If your going down the route of one rifle for Deer/Fox then 25.06,260 rem, 6.5 or 308 obviously steer clear of the exotic calibres.. I am recommending what I've had experience with, that's how I work Vim - perhaps you should read my posts, I've said that before. Anyway, I'll give you the 25-06, a good all-round calibre since you do still get decent fast, flat varmint bullet
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    Edgar Brothers are screw cutting most of them, they are available cut or standard, different part codes so you need to order the right one. Screwcut 5/8" UNF. I might be persuaded to sell mine... Regarding moderator, get something light. I have a P8 Compact on mine and it's OK, but lighter would be better.
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    Get a brand new Remington or Savage. Don't stray to any other make - the Remington and Savage have a faster twist which gets you the versatility to shoot 100gr bullets well - they're not marginal for those rifles, they are for a 1:10. Both makes should shoot lighter fox bullets too - let's not have the debate on whether you can or should use them for deer!
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    Neither of the calibres you mention is a decent long range rabbit round, for a custom build. Hornet is a good tool, but is not really better than HMR for rabbits. You need a bullet which is relatively unaffected by wind, because you are aiming for a small target at a long range. To give you some idea, I was out with my Hornet, which is very accurate, in a breeze at 200 yards, missed the rabbit I was aiming at. With .223, I can and have made similar shots time and time again - it's much easier. It's a better calibre for such a build, but if I was going to embark on your project, I would
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    The biggest problem here is not actually related to firearms. The airgun issues are not the issue, they are merely a symptom of the issue. The issue is the lack of individual responsibility and discipline, and this goes throughout the British Isles. This gives rise to stupid behaviour - constant, excessive drinking, shooting people with airguns, and pretty much every other stupid thing that happens now. The issue is that people don't do a lot any more - weekend = townies getting drunk, and recovering the next day. Which means the young folk want to be like everyone they see around them
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    Being as you are in SA, you should get the one with a decent barrel. they're very good rifles, generally incredibly accurate for a factory rifle, and handle pretty well. I doubt you will be disappointed. I may be biased though as I placed my order for a .308 T3 Varmint (sadly the short barrel one) this morning...
  12. Mr_Logic
    you've answered your own question - Mr FEO, I would like a semi auto .22 as I am doing a lot of lamping and I am finding that most of the shots are up close, and if I had a semi auto I could fire and kill at a rate unsustainable with the bolt action. Therefore this gets the job done better and keeps the landowner happy. I want to keep my bolt action for daytime work, since, Mr FEO, it has this lovely set trigger, which is wonderful for daytime stalked shots but less brilliant for my lamping work. If he argues, tell him to note down your case and take it to his boss. if they argue, tell
  13. Mr_Logic
    The only reason to use them over something more mainstream is the range - just how far away is this vermin of yours? Personally, unless we're talking seriously extreme range, I don't see the point of anything so rare. Yes they are all pretty good, but, well ... Hmmm....
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    It does seem rather excessive, it's a 22 for crying out loud.... <sigh>
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    Agreed, 22 Hornet is the quieter option, it's perfect for the situation you describe, I speak from a similar experience!
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    You will need to reload any of those calibres if you are shooting vermin, factory ammo is very expensive to achieve the accuracy you need. 204 is a good calibre. I had a pain reloading it, but it's becoming more common now. Of the two I would get the Howa, while mine hated the 40gr bullets it shot 32s very well, and I did persuade it on the 40gr Nosler in the end, but never to the same degree of accuracy. For primarily vermin, and fox as a secondary, 204 is perfect. It's not any quieter than 223 though.
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    Hornet is cheaper than .222 - uses same cost bullets and less powder, so go figure! Hornet over HMR, and then I wouldn't worry on .222, it's louder, and yes it works better, but it doesn't have the nice thing about Hornet - the bullet does its 175 yards or so and then dies off quick. They are much better than a .222/223 for small permissions and times when noise and bullet carry could be a worry.
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    All well and good if you speak from experience.... 204 is popular with the Yanks because it is probably about the best varmint calibre. It uses less powder and bullet to do as good a job as 22-250, and it does reach out very explosively for the little critters. Sometimes we do have a need for that - one of my shoots has some very long shots - if you get setup with a long-ranged rifle you can take crows out at silly ranges and have a bit of fun. I don't think it's the best fox calibre unless you're using it from a vehicle and can have the heavy, long barrel that it works best with -
  19. Mr_Logic
    I had a Sako, it was a wonderful gun in every way. If I could afford one, I would buy another. Stupidly, I passed up the chance when I got that (now departed) Coyote Lite. Shoulda got the Sako. Hey ho!
  20. Mr_Logic
    I'm guessing then that's the plastic tipped ones, which in this case are Nosler ballistic tips. They'll fly to about 3 inches low at 200, and about 10 at 300. So on a fox, anything under 200 yards, aim centre of chest and shoot, pretty much. I suspect you will find them pretty accurate, too.
  21. Mr_Logic
    Choice of 100 or 200 yards, which weight and type of bullet? In terms of killing him, if you can hit the right bit, you'll kill him with that - certainly under 500 yards, and he won't argue if it's in the right place. Suggest you check the drop and windage on some targets, get used to the performance of the rifle. Until then, 200 yards is basically aim and shoot with a 100 yard zero, for most ammo in 223.
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    Jamie, I agree Savage is a good make. But over Sako? Er, no, not the standard production stuff anyway. Maybe their target rifles but they're a different market. Big Dog, why not get the Sako in 22-250? Make sure you don't get the stupid 20-inch barrel one though, it's far too short for 22-250 - get GMK to import the proper barrel for you.
  23. Mr_Logic
    Hornet's fantastic and does everything you want it to do. But it's also just as loud as HMR!
  24. Mr_Logic
    In order: -- Yes, it'll be a little bit louder. Not enough to worry about. -- Doubt it will be a problem, with a moderator there isn't much. -- Yes, you will notice this. Equally the thump will be that much louder so you will hear the strike. -- If you're not shooting rabbits and so on, you won't notice it. -- Same as previous. HTH!
  25. Mr_Logic
    Agreed, if he's shooting reds and bragging, let him brag to his FEO.
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