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  1. Mr_Logic
    In all fairness Deker, Charlotte Kerwood, nowadays at least, is a reasonable size... I am just trying to find something at the moment for my other half, who is 5' 5" and built small. She is OK with a 12 - if you're worried about recoil then a semi auto solves that, but it's the length of stock. Trying to find something shorter and that should do. Franchi do a nice light semi auto 12 bore. Are you shooting clays or live quarry?
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    HMR is not great for fox, but not for the reasons stated earlier. 2550 is very slow in velocity terms, and HMR doesn't blow up that fast compared to some. Up close, it works fine, the tip fragments as designed and all is well. It's when they're used further out without the energy they need to work that the problems come - the little bullet whizzes through without expanding and causes very little damage indeed. Headshot, under 120 yards, all is well.
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    You need to reload Hornet. I also use 12.3 gr H110 under 35gr V-max. It rarely exits a fox - nice solid thump and charlie falls over no problem, and no mess. Works nicely on rabbits, bucks the wind better than HMR. Costs the same as HMR (well, ish, but it's damn close) and does a whole lot more. It's not as capable as .222 or .223, but it's much quieter. Highly recommended.
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    Tikka T3 is a very good rifle. The main issue now is the ridiculous short barrel on the MTs that GMK imports - why can't they import the normal version as well and get it cut in the UK?!?! Muppets. You lose vast amounts of muzzle velocity in certain calibres because of this. 243 is heavily afflicted unfortunately. However, while this is annoying, it doesn't stop the rifle being very accurate or killing deer, so as long as you're not going to be pernickety about muzzle velocity (I am sadly!) then the Tikka works well. I have one in .308, since it's not badly affected, and it's great - s
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    BASC's official, legally-checked view, as quoted from David BASC on Pigeonwatch, and verified as being the view of BASC, and not him personally: I'd still like to see clarification in law to prevent this debate though.
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    But HZ you are missing the point. Nobody doubts that in shooting terms a polymer tip is different to a soft nose or a hollow nose, in terms of traditional talk. BUT the polymer tip is a wedge on top of a hollow point. Therefore, those bullets ARE hollow nosed, from a literal interpretation - without the definition in the Act, this is what we have to go on. Therefore, there is sufficient doubt and confusion as to make any conviction impossible, and therefore you may use them. I would like to see clarification to end this once and for all.
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    I do indeed admit that it is a grey area, never been in doubt. I would like to see the law clarified. I just think they're legal in the interim, and would like to see clarification just because it removes any argument. Regarding the expanding ammo on foxes and vermin, this is absolutely 100% NOT required - it is perfectly legal to shoot a fox with FMJ. Personally I wouldn't, I like Charlie to fall over with a bloody great hole in him so I know it was humane, but there's no law against it.
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    Match bullets ARE legal in England and Wales - they DO have a hollow point. In England/Wales law, the expansion is not considered. I wouldn't use those bullets on deer, or any other animal, but they are legal.I agree that the Scottish law is the best way to term it, it makes life much easier for all to understand.Regarding the manufacturer stuff - you haven't got an answer from a Company lawyer, so that would be a good place to start.Tell you what, I'll drop Winchester an email about their full page advertisement in BASC's magazine this month and see what they say. The one with the polymer tip
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    You believe what you like - try going to back to Nosler with the information that manufacturers and distributors actively market their product for use on deer in this country, and see what they say then regarding legality.Ultimately, there is a bloody great hollow section in the tip, and while they call it a hard polymer, if I take a knife to it, it's much softer than the copper. The polymer tip doesn't work well without a cavity - the wedge drives this cavity apart which is what initiates the expansion in the first place. Ergo, all polymer tips must have a hollow section.But whatever. There's
  10. Mr_Logic
    22 long blanks are easily had. They won't cycle it though so you'll need to load one at a time. For gundog training, 30 quid's worth of blank firer is easier!
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    hello Mr L! you've been quiet on ehre for a while! hope your well mate, due in cornwall any time soon? will defo get the compact n that case mate, cheers. No plans at the moment mate but will let you know when I do. BTW, you have a shotgun don't you? You been to Newnham Park clay ground in Plympton? Very good!
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    The PNC does not show all the details of the firearms AFAIK. It shows you hold an FAC. To access the firearm details, someone has to access the national firearms DB. When Deker and I ran into the police (they were out at the shoot for other reasons, but checked us out when they bumped into us) one time, they checked my FAC, which I had with me, but since they had never seen one, they were going to call an ARV - I pointed out the national database and this was checked quickly enough, but when they radioed through someone had to find out how to log into it, and then check the details. It
  13. Mr_Logic
    The Sako varmint is bloody heavy if you're carrying it, but if you're not it's a beautifully made, wonderfully accurate shooting platform. So basically, if you're walking - Hunter, if you're not, Varmint.
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    I quote but one thing. we have showed four missiles (two of each kind) to experienced riflemen, senior police officers and firearms administration staff. No-one has yet correctly identified which missiles are prohibited and which are uncontrolled and the firearms act has little to do with the deer act. The above is exactly what I am doing my level best to point out, and that is that polymer tipped bullets have not been defined accurately in legislation, which the above proves. Yes, we know that certain polymer tipped bullets are designed for deer shooting and may even be better than
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    You're not debating shit, you're just restating the same argument over and over. The length of time I have owned firearms is considerable, my deer stalking is much more recent and has absolutely no bearing on the legality of the bullet. If we were talking the rights and wrongs of the use of such bullets, it might be relevant, but we're not. I have stated plenty of facts, the key one is the construction of polymer tip bullets - they ARE soft in the point and they ARE hollow in the nose - the bloody websites show you a bloody great big picture! I'm tired of this - neither of us is go
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    Is wikipedia referenced in law? Nope, 'fraid not. I understand the law pretty damn well thanks. I understand that without a supporting definition, a term cannot have any implied definition. So if you say to a lawyer, this bullet, with a soft plastic tip (because the polymer used most definitely IS softer than copper, and yes, I am aware there are some hard plastics in the world, but they aren't used in bullets) with a hollow cavity underneath it - is that a soft or hollow nosed bullet? he'd say "It's both" It matters not what the hunting community refers to. In addition, the Act pre-da
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    The difference is indeed barely noticeable - I have had both, as has Deker, and we have compared. Couldn't tell the difference in moderation, sure can in weight. Absolutely, 110%, get the compact.
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    Your email to Hornady proves nothing - you have asked a loaded question. You miss the point entirely - I agree completely that in shooting terminology, a polymer tip is neither a soft nosed or hollow nosed bullet. The POINT, and this is FACT, is that we are talking legal definitions here. Nowhere in the Act does it define what it means by the term Soft-nosed or hollow-nosed. Consequently, with no definition, they must be taken literally. Therefore, the question you must ask is - does a polymer tip have a soft or hollow nose. As I have pointed out before, a polymer tip is technically a soft
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    Hunter_Zero, we have had this discussion before.Tell you what, you want to see a court case - I have shot deer with numerous polymer tip bullets. All have died cleanly. I admit to this - so bring a private prosecution. I hope you have deep pockets to pay all my costs when you lose.The Deer Act says soft nosed or hollow point, as you say. It does not elaborate on these, which means that it does NOT specifically mean the 'traditional' view of these. It is a legal document and where a term is not defined it must be taken at face value.A polymer tip bullet has:* A plastic tip, which is SOFTER than
  20. Mr_Logic
    As I've said on Pigeonwatch, the officer actually acted wholly in compliance with the law. If you look back at the actual Firearms acts, you will see that if you cannot prove you are the legal, licensed owner of a firearm, the police have the right to confiscate it until such time as you prove this. The onus is on you to do this, the police officer does not have any requirement to check it. This means that while you don't need the FAC on you, it helps because this proves legal ownership. PNC merely says you are an FAC holder. Personally I think the police officer was wrong, he handled
  21. Mr_Logic
    I have a T3 Varmint 20" in 308, for both deer and targets. Very accurate, only lose about 70fps over my 26" barrel Ruger 308 as well. Not too bad for carrying so long as you have a lightweight moderator and lightweight scope (I do). Probably a good choice and will deal happily with anything out to over 600, will do 1000 at a push but not very well.
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    Nothing, but the 1:8 is a bit fast for them. Since you've got the 1:12 I expect they will be fine - used to shoot them myself and very good, for factory ammo.
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    Matty refresh my memory - have you tried H110 behind that 35gr?
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    I shot a roe the other day with a .308 165gr ballistic tip, nothing like that level of damage on her. Neat and tidy and very quick. See if I can get some pics next time round.
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    35gr vmax for me, in my CZ527 - shoots under half inch pretty regularly at 100 with that - lovely little rifle.
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