Mr_Logic
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I had the 525, I presume this is what you mean? It was a bag of shit, avoid! There are much better s/a 22s out there, the RUger 10/22 included!
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Out for rabbits, but got Charlie instead
Mr_Logic replied to Effortless's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Ah yes, but that is YOUR FAC. Each one is different, and when talking about the legality of this, the ONLY one that matters is the FAC of the fox shooter. Everyone else's, and every other bit of argument, is completely irrelevant. Jackwhite - I would agree that your Force does include fox with vermin, and if that is what your ticket says then legally you can shoot them anyway for reasons I have already ascertained. Please note, while I am 100% convinced this is the case, if you are in any doubt do NOT take my word - check it with your Force, and get it in writing. This needs a test cas -
7mph
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Out for rabbits, but got Charlie instead
Mr_Logic replied to Effortless's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Well, what do you guys think... This is condition number 8 on my FAC... "The .22 rifle and sound moderator and ammunition shall be used for shooting VERMIN and for zeroing on ranges, or land deemed suitable by the chief offiier of police for the area where the land is situated and over which the holder has lawful authority to shoot." Are foxes legally classed as vermin? The FAC condition gives me permission to shoot vermin, and I have written permission from the land owner. All pukka, or not?? Effortless. And here we go again! Foxes are GENERALLY (but not always!) -
it's a combination of both. I don't have a wind speed meter so I have to guess the strength of the wind. Thereafter, I put that guessed value into my ballistic calculator and then dial or aim off by the amount it says. on this particular shot it said 5.5". That seemed a lot so I gave it a couple, and the bullet hit a few inches further left than it should have. So the calculator was spot on...
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Why are there so many tossers on here again, that post complete rubbish? Do they not teach spelling any more in school? The odd typo fair enough, and nobody's perfect. But reading these posts it just looks like illiterate pikeys, and that's not a good advert for shooting really!
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For bunnies? Hmmm. Make sure you get a finer reticle than the standard cross hair then, otherwise you will struggle. I would suggest a different make with perhaps less good glass, but a bit more magnification!
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Thanks guys. For those not understanding, it's just a bit different from aiming off. If you have a scope with good adjustments, which you can rely on (i.e. something reasonably expensive in most cases) and you can reset those adjustments to zero, then you can dial in your shot rather than aiming off. What that means is that instead of thinking, "OK the bullet will drop 2 inches and be wind-affected by 3 inches" for example, you would adjust the scope by that much, so that all you have to do is put the crosshair on your target - the compensation for drop and windage has been done alread
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I was out with the 223 this evening, which has rapidly earned itself a reprieve! Just got a chrono for my birthday so I had a play with that too - found out that my 40gr load is actually slow at 3500fps. But, using that information, an educated guess on the wind and a precise range value I nailed a rabbit at 250 yards. While this is not a particularly long shot, I was dead chuffed as for the first time I dialled that in, rather than aiming off (well, the elevation anyway, I didn't zero the windage turret yet). Sitting shot over crops off the bipod, and the rabbit turned over and laid there
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No, it's really not. The HMR is a necked down .22WMR. The Hornet is an entirely different beast. It flies flatter and hits harder than HMR, is less wind affected and is easily granted for foxes and for rabbits. BUT, and it's a big BUT, you MUST reload for it. Factory ammo is rare, expensive and inaccurate. Homeloads are easily made, accurate and cheap - completely transforms the calibre. I know, I had it when I didn't reload, and now I do, I have Hornet again and wouldn't part with it. You can get it to nudge over 3000 fps with a 35gr Vmax, which is a great combo as it wor
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You can get components for the calibres you have. Primers require production of FAC but nothing more. FMJ bullets are freely available (i.e. no ticket required), expanding heads require expanding ammo condition, and can be put on your ticket (some do, some don't in my experience!). Powder and cases are freely available.
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As a vermin tool the 22-250 is an excellent calibre, and the Remington 700 an excellent rifle. Get it and enjoy
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You will probably be OK at night with anything really, I've had some really fine rets and been OK. VX-L is a good scope and 900 is a good price for it now, so that might fit well too!
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Yes, you have to do many things to shoot birds under general licence, but there are conditions for other birds too. In terms of FAC conditions, they're vermin, end of. Being on the general licence means that when they're shot using that licence as the legal way of shooting, they're considered vermin, under the definition of vermin as a pest, including damage to livestock, crops or health.
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Right, this pisses me off right royally. If you think that I'm wrong then fine, but I want a LINK to where they've been taken off the general license this year. Could you please provide one?
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yeah it does. Every now and then you get one that is motionless long enough to make the shot. Otherwise a body shot with a CF wins hands down! (or even 22LR at a close range, the penetration works well)
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No you don't, that's wrong. Canada geese are classed as vermin, and as such you may shoot them with a vermin ticket. Unlike our foxy friend, there's no ambiguity on this one. For rifle shooting, you need something of reasonable size. 22LR works but you have to get bloody close, 17HMR doesn't work humanely, it's not enough gun. Minimum 22 Magnum, but something decent is better, they take some stopping. I have had success with Hornet, 223 and 243, and of those a 243 90gr SP was the best blend between human destruction and an edible carcass. If you're not eating, find something with l
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I'd probably end up with 2 guns in that case tbh! I looked at quite a few O/U guns and didn't get excited about buying any. I am excited about buying this one. That'll do me for now I think
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No you don't, that's wrong. Canada geese are classed as vermin, and as such you may shoot them with a vermin ticket. Unlike our foxy friend, there's no ambiguity on this one. For rifle shooting, you need something of reasonable size. 22LR works but you have to get bloody close, 17HMR doesn't work humanely, it's not enough gun. Minimum 22 Magnum, but something decent is better, they take some stopping. I have had success with Hornet, 223 and 243, and of those a 243 90gr SP was the best blend between human destruction and an edible carcass. If you're not eating, find something with l
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I'm not really too bothered about not being able to use this at a pheasant shoot, as I doubt I will go to a pheasant shoot. I don't really mind if a semi is 'frowned upon' when clay shooting either - unless they're going to kick me out then bollocks, quite frankly! This thing will be used 50/50 between clay pigeons and flappy pigeons. Seems like it will work for them Quite happy using breech flags or whatever as well, have to with the rifles. As a matter of interest, what IS the problem when busting up clays?
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Right folks, I'm branching out. Been looking at shotguns for a while, got my SGC all sorted. I know bugger all about them, but I want to kill flying birds and destroy flying bits of clay. Thus far I've got as far as (mainly thanks to Deker's very patient help) a 28" barreled gun of some description, either over and under or semi auto. Quick look at the gunshop at the weekend, quite like the look of the Winchester SX3. Seems to fit me better than anything else I've tried, good balance, light weight. Like the fact that it's a semi auto as the other half will doubtless want a go, and
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For now, I think the 243 project is on hold - I shall keep my 223 for the time being, and that will do everything except deer. Certainly it has done thus far, and I'd rather have a shotgun than the 243 (see my soon-to-be-posted shotgun thread!) But, who knows, I might get bored quickly (it has been known!!)
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Do you mean 5.5-22x56 NP-R1? I.e. the one with 1MOA small hash marks and 2MOA large hash marks? If it's that one, with MOA adjustments, then I'd get that. You can dial in based on your reticle observations if you want to, it's a good fine reticle too and you can aim off if you like. BUT if you're lamping much then I would avoid it, because it will be too cluttered to be useful. The mildot ret will work and at that price it should do very well. Tbh, where are you, and which shop is this - I might have the one you don't want! All that said, have you considered a VX-III w
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Nightforce mildot ret is very fine, and you'd turn up the mag for a bunny much over 200 yards anyway. I agree with dwighet though, the NP2-DD is the one to get for a 204 Ruger. It's very flat so you only need a couple of inches of holdover on a rabbit at 250+ yards, and that's with a 100 yard zero. Anything over that you need to know the drop for anyway, so just dial it in. Edit: I don't think 8-32 is the one to get though. 32 mag isn't needed for a 204 Ruger, it's a 500 yard calibre tops, and you could do the job with the 5.5-22, and that costs less and has more adjustment should you
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If you're shooting deer, these are overkill. A deer is a large target so doesn't need that much mag. Zeiss is a very good scope, and all the other German/Euro makes. Re Nightforce - they ARE good in low light, my 5.5-22x56 is very crisp and clear.