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Mr_Logic

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  1. A shot to the chest area of a rabbit will drop a rabbit as quick as a head shot, and in most cases stands less chance of bouncing off thick bone, which can and does happen from time to time with headshots. I will take your word on that one. I didn't spend long hunting rabbits with an air rifle, my rimfire followed PDQ. Back then, everyone I spoke to said to me to keep it to head shots. I did, and it did work fine. Logun - If you take a rabbit and a fox, a fox is about 10 times the weight of a rabbit (roughly!), and a 22LR has (roughly!) 10x the power at the muzzle. The ranges are the s
  2. Agreed, Howas are good rifles. While you can't get that much in the way of aftermarket stuff, they take a Remington 700 mounts, and people do triggers to fit them. The stock, be it Hogue or the laminate ones, is very good anyway. What else would you like to change?
  3. A shot to the chest area of a rabbit will drop a rabbit as quick as a head shot, and in most cases stands less chance of bouncing off thick bone, which can and does happen from time to time with headshots. I will take your word on that one. I didn't spend long hunting rabbits with an air rifle, my rimfire followed PDQ. Back then, everyone I spoke to said to me to keep it to head shots. I did, and it did work fine. Logun - If you take a rabbit and a fox, a fox is about 10 times the weight of a rabbit (roughly!), and a 22LR has (roughly!) 10x the power at the muzzle. The ranges are the s
  4. Of course, bear in mind that in the firearms world, any calibre that requires a head shot for a clean kill is considered marginal for that species, at best. Given that air rifles (<12 ft/lbs) do really need a headshot for a clean kill on a rabbit, that makes them marginal To say a 12 ft/lb air gun is properly up to the job is like saying that 22LR is OK for fox or for roe deer. It will kill either with a head shot, but somewhat less than fabulous otherwise. Now, as I said, there are reasons for using air guns and there are no laws to prevent their use on rabbits, but the situat
  5. Aaron, I take your point that you enjoy the stalk, which is fair enough. I'll be honest, I do too, but not on bunny rabbits. My permissions are mostly very flat, there is little cover. This means crawling for hundreds of yards, which IMHO isn't worth it for a rabbit. On deer, which I do shoot for the pot, and don't shoot many of, it's satisfying. Though, again, I have to stalk fairly gently to get to within 200 yards, and I don't like shooting them much over that. Have done out to 250, but 200 is nice and close, so it's easy enough. 200 on a rabbit can be bloody hard though, given the wind
  6. He's in Bracknell, Berks. And will be at the Phoenix show. Knowing Andy, he'll have enough Prvi ammo to wage a small war
  7. Deker's group from a Tikka T3 Lite: My CZ 527 is also accurate: Remember with both of these, they're measured edge to edge, so for centre/centre minus .224, which gives you 0.121 for the T3, and 0.127 for the CZ. The ragged hole next to my group is another 3 shot group, shot after a one-click right adjustment of 1/4 MOA @ 100 yards. The total group for the 6 shots measures 0.429, and then remove the .25" adjustment gives a 6-shot group of 0.179". So clearly, given the right ammo, the Tikka and CZ shoot! I am having similar deliberations over these rifles but in 24
  8. You can't. I had one of those scopes, it's best for target work. Make sure you set the turret to zero, then make sure it's on zero when you go shooting
  9. Personally I agree that air rifles are not brilliant hunting tools. I accept that they work, and I accept they have their place - from a safety point of view they are good as they barely hurt anything. Around farms and livestock, they are good - farm building shoot has short range and delicate conditions and the air rifle works well. BUT Most of MY shooting is out and about at longer ranges than air guns can manage. Most of my rabbits get shot with centrefires as I reload and it's cheap. I am a fan of being able to knock them over at 200-300 yards, as I prefer marksmanship to stalk
  10. What do you need the instructions for - what bit are you having problems with? www.falconoptics.com will probably help.
  11. 12 ft lb air rifle is a very useful garden tool. But for me, that's about it. I don't remember the last time I fired my air rifle. Or, for that matter, my rimfire...
  12. Agreed! Freedom of speech and all that. Anyway that picture is SO tame compared to the rabbit I shot this evening. I'd post a picture but it's on my phone. I've seen some explosions in my time but this one was huge, and I don't know why really. Sure it was a lengthways shot, but they don't normally end up in pieces over a couple of square feet. This is the thing - shit happens, and it's a hunting forum, where we talk about hunting. Since this stuff happens when you hunt, what's the problem? Now, if I posted a picture like that on some kids' "who's got the cutest pet bunny" bulletin
  13. I have tested it. The reactions were as advertised...
  14. I hate to have to break the news, but the antis already have huge numbers. Popular opinion is that guns are bad. Strangely, most men still actually like them, but the fashion is we're all evil. Simple fact is that rabbits do get exploded, as do foxes and deer. Posting pictures simply means we're not ashamed of our choice to launch 2800 ft/lbs at an animal that weighs 2 lbs. Why should we be? Not broken any laws. I don't think it means we glorify anything, merely that the intended quarry failed to show and a Consolation Bunny was taken instead. I don't think it will persuade anyone one
  15. Funnily enough, I don't shoot on anywhere they raise pheasants or other game birds, so they actually don't care. There are a couple of farms that do, and that's why I have a 22 Hornet and a subsonic 22LR as well. Tools for the job BTW, I wouldn't admit to poaching on your signature, not really the best plan.
  16. Caliper costs about 25 quid, absolutely 100% worth having, made my life a lot easier. In the meantime, trial and error. get a sized case, no primer, seat a bullet until the base of the bullet is at the base of the neck (check this with another bullet alongside it). Try this in your rifle's chamber, and if it fits it will do for now. Keep this as a master, and check the seating of the live rounds against it.
  17. You see, occasionally we do agree...
  18. Have seen thousands of carcasses and all caused by my hand. It doesn't put me off. I am not a detractor, I am a supporter but it doesn't help the cause when we (and I say we) glorify the damage caused by the shot. Dignity and respect for the carcass used to matter when I hunted. Like I say, not trying to annoy anyone but having been in this game for over 35 years you get to understand how the other side thinks & works. I take your point. BUT the Antis would tell me how to live my life, they would tell me that I shouldn't shoot things, and should lose my personal freedoms. They will, sa
  19. I think this shows a total lack of self control. One wonders what your FAC says your 308 is for. Remind me again why you're quoting me? I didn't actually shoot the rabbit in question. However, get off your f***ing high horse. Rabbits get shot with every calibre under the sun - it's their lot in life. They are the bottom of the food chain, which means that, like the unlucky kid at school, they cop strife from all corners. As has been said, dead is dead. Now, in terms of the legalities here, firstly, ACPO had guidance, covered by the BASC magazine, which allows the shooting of l
  20. That is surprisingly tame actually... 243 with 55gr ballistic tip at that range... now that's a mess
  21. I love the smell of Eley 22RF ammo, it's great
  22. Nowadays there are more regulations, less land to shoot on and more distractions. Remember shooting is so frowned upon that it takes a rare lass to her kids out with dad and his gun. Those that do should be forever commended. Trappa - I salute you, more parents should be like you. I always liked shooting when I was young, but I got into it via school. My mum was distinctly anti me and air rifles, but being school shooting champion for 4 straight years allowed my dad to persuade her that an air rifle was OK. During that time I also joined a smallbore club for 'practice mum, honest!' and
  23. Prvi 90gr seems to be pretty good - my old 243 shot it OK, and deker's Tikka shoots it well. Definitely worth a look.
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