well lads out lampin, last night took the pup for a run out, with the bigger dogs, us got a few rabbits and a deer, my pup runnin down lamp at the rabbits doing really well he missed more than he caught, he caught one and carryed it all the way back to my feet and i have never even learnt him to retreive yet then us ran the deer me pals dog got it, us got to it took the dog off the deer, and it start runnin again wait till it got about 30 feet and i let me pup go by him sell, he got to it a couple of turns and he pulled it down i was well inpressed with with.. . and he has just go 7 month ol