don't believe all you read it was (SMITHY) and the ansawer is yes to your question spindolero . I dug up and down the country with ken that was normaliy on invite to see his dogs work and the comments where only good .no bleepers in them days all you had to dig to was bumps and grunts some times 2/3 hr or longer to get a mark .the good thing was only 1 hole to dig thanks john