cheers stabba i mate al good up here mate carnt wait till september when fields are cut to get out with the dogs walkin them just isent the same mate, both dam n sire are good at there job i only lined me bitch as i wanted a dog pup, had bitches 90% ov my hunting life and wanted to try a dog but didnt want to buy a pup off something i hadent seen work, coz there is that many people breadin from unproven stuff and you dont know what ya gettin, the bitch is 6 now so time was right to line her i was only hopein for 7/8 pups not bloody 11 and it was the sire`s first time at sirein a litter ov pup