thanks for the comments, i have only put it out a few times so im am STILL LEARNIN as i dont have any body round my way that i no that dose longnettin, so i have to learn by phone, books, dvd`s and my mistakes but im am not goin to give up,, so feel free to call me dumb, daft what ever at least im givein it a go and not throwin in the towl when it dosent go right, but feel free to pass any tips, thanks tomo i no the line wasent tight lol but i am gettin there if you had ov seen my first attempt ov it you would ov pissed your self laughing, had the poles to far apart some ov the net was on the