i have a dogtra e collar but i rarely use it unless i have to,i gave my daughter a pup a while ago hes six mths old he is as stuborn as f**k and just wante to hunt ive told her to use my e collar but she thinks its cruel,shes going to try to train him with treats,i dont think this will work hes already interested in cows and hell only get worse i just wondered what peoples views on using e collar in certain cases thanks