Thanks fella, the dog was a slow starter and due to a few mistakes I made when he as a sapling (sensative saluki side) he was unsure of what he was allowed to grip. We are over that now and he's very capable of all sensible quarry for a runner. The bitch came off a lad in Exeter and was a gamble as far as breeding was concerned but from an early age was keen and turned into a dog I'd be pleased to own again, lacking a little in stamina but other than that she's been a pleasure and contributed to the demise of many, many unfortunates.