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Everything posted by chartpolski
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Do you not read or understand what I post ? Ive said more than once that some terrorist activity is exported from Saudi Arabia, probably financed by some princes, but to blame ALL terrorism on Saudi and absolve Iran is irrational? And you haven’t explained about the seven Iranian terrorists recently jailed in the UK . As for sufi’ism and wahabi’ism they are just branches of Islam and I doubt very much that a Sufi would describe himself as a wahabi, but then again, the intricacies of Islam isn’t my specialist subject. Cheers.
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Can you give me any proof Choudry was based in Saudi ? He has supported every extremist group and was jailed in Lebanon. He supports ISIS andAl Qaeda but I can’t find any mention of him ever being in Saudi. He’s a home grown religious nut. As I said, there has been terrorism exported from Saudi but to blame only the Saudis is simplistic. How do you explain the seven Iranian and Iranian backed terrorists that have recently been jailed for planning outrages in Britain ? Those two who murdered Rigby were morons who couldn’t point to Saudi on a map, educationally sun-normal, cannon
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Stop it, please stop it Those two who murdered Lee Rigby wouldn’t know the difference between an Arab Wahabi and a Japanese Wasabi Cheers.
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Of course there’s been terrorism exported FROM Saudi, and possibly by some Saudi princes , but to blame them for everything and absolve the Iranians is nonsense. Another little aside, My daughter went to school with and grew up with Prince Turki bin Faisal, a grandson of King Faisal, he flew her and my missus to stay in his palace when she was diagnosed with terminal cancer to get treatment and second opinions. I spoke to him most days and he told me that he had been under investigation by MI 6 as he had bought 10,000 rifles and 1,000,000 rounds of ammunition from America and shipped
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The Saudis didn’t fund Osama Bin Laden , he had his own fortune, the bin Laden are one of the richest families in the world. His family and the Saudis cut him off when he went rogue. Both my kids went to the same school as the Bin Laden kids . I don’t know if he was a Whahabi, but I know he had a hatred of American influence in Saudi. How can you possibly say I’m miles off when Iran sponsors Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthi , etc ? My views are gained by experience, that doesn’t mean I’m allways right, but I’d say I’ve got a better insight than average. Cheers.
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The biggest exporter/supporter of terrorism in the Middle East is Iran, and they are predominantly Shi’ite. Saudi has about 10% Shi’ite, mainly in the Eastern Province. Whahabi’ism is an ultra orthodox branch of Islam who were used by Ibn Saud to take over most of the Arabian peninsula and create Saudi Arabia. The Whahabi’s then turned against the Saudi Royal Family, there views are not the views of Saudi, probably not since King Faisal and certainly not now with the Crown Prince . Comparing Sunni and Shi’ite Islam is like comparing Catholic and Protestant Christianity, or Has
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The pope’s representative at the Albigensian crusade said “kill them all, the Lord will know his own”. Harsh , but fair Cheers.
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This might interest you ,Wilf; The old lad in the middle is Des Phillips, I worked with him in the Middle East when I was only 24. He was one of the youngest Fight Sergeants in the British air force and was with 617 Squadron , The Dambusters. He didn’t fly on that sortie but did on the sortie that sunk the German Battleship Tirpitz. He got a medal for that and one for getting his Lancaster home with one engine out and damaged landing gear . Now he had some REALLY good stories Cheers.
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I’ve told this one before. I was working in the power house of the Saudi Air Defence Centre during the Saudi Yemen war and armed guards were stationed with us. I said to one of the Saudi Officers “ are they here to protect us?” ; he said “ no , they are here to shoot you if you turn of the radar “ !!!! Cheers.
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I heard a tale that was supposed to be true where a Saudi jumped out of a high rise window and landed on a car and died, the owner of the car was held responsible! Now this is one a true story as I was involved. We lived in a block of flats and wired them all up to get videos from one lad who had a vcr, which were banned in Saudi back then. He would put blue movies on for us . Anyway, he didn’t turn up for work one day and when we broke into his flat he was sitting in front of the tv dead ! We couldn't have the police come as they would search all the flats and find the booze, vid
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When I first went out there, I had an induction at Lockheed Aircraft, who basically ran the Saudi Airforce back then. One of the first things they told us was if we saw an RTA, DO NOT STOP TO HELP, as the last person to touch a dying man is held responsible !! A mate of mine was driving down a street and a Saudi ran into the back of him, the police said HE was responsible as if he hadn’t been in the country the Saudi couldn’t have ran into him ! A few days later a Saudi police car came shooting out of a side street, ON ITS ROOF , and t/boned his car, again he was held responsible.
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No , the base is not lost ! When thousands of missiles are being launched some will obviously get through . I may be wrong but I thought THAAD were mobile installations. Losing one doesn’t mean the base is lost . You said the US had lost all its bases, it hasn’t, it hasn’t lost one base. The Cyprus base was struck, have we lost that base ? Of course not. Just like we haven’t lost the Bahrain base. Cheers.
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Mate , I honestly tried not to reply to him , but I’ve actually got skin in the game , as the yanks would say. I’ve also got many years of experience not only in the area but in the military bases. when someone says something so blatantly untrue I just can’t stop myself. Ive got more to worry about than trying to disprove nonsense, I should really know better Cheers.
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The Bahrain base is still opening as a joint US/UK Base. Tell me what bases , remember, you said ALL bases, had been lost. In fact , don’t bother, not one, not a single base, has been lost. Cheers.
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No, no ! America has lost all its bases and radar, Iran is winning and hasn’t even started yet ! PMSL ! My daughter in law lives within sight of King Abdullah Air Base in Jeddah, I speak to her every day and they haven’t had an air raid siren , or heard an explosion and the base is operating as normal, but mC reckons the US had lost all its bases Cheers.
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“Lost all their bases” ? Can you name one US base that has been lost ? Cheers.
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If nothing else Irans military capabilities have been seriously degraded. Their air force, again, never really left the ground, over 50 ships have been sunk, air defences and radar neutralised, drone and missile manufacturing disrupted. Isreal was / is flying 50 jet sorties virtually unopposed and the B1’s, B2’s and B52’s are lined up at Fairford and DG locked and loaded. The strike on the Ayatollah took out most of the senior commanders. It’s up to Trump now. I think Netanyahu will be pushing for total destruction but Trump will be looking at the Mid-Terms and the American peop
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There’s a lot of nuances in Sharia executions and amputations. A devout Muslim must have all his body parts when he dies and is buried, or he cannot enter heaven. When a murderer is executed, his head isn’t buried with his body, so he can’t ascend to heaven. When a family refuses to”blood money” , they aren’t just getting revenge by killing the accused , they are blocking him from going to heaven. When a family accept “blood money” they are lauded as being good Muslims for not sentencing the accused to eternity in hell ! Of course some WILL just want the money ! Same wi
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I don’t know about Pakistan ,but the way Sharia law is done in Saudi, a death penalty can be commuted to life in jail if the victims family ask for “blood money” from the accused family. If they don’t , that’s it, no appeals, it’s head off Cheers.
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The Gulf States are moving nearer to the west at a fair rate. When I lived in Saudi, they had the Religious Police who were medieval ! Women couldn’t work, smoke, drive, travel without their husband or fathers permission. Restaurants were segregated , photography was banned. In the 20 years since I left, I’ve been back to visit regularly and the changes are enormous . My daughter in law drives, has her own car and apartment, travels internationally for her job as Accounts manager for a huge company. There are now cinemas, pop concerts, sporting contests, no segreg
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Yes and yes . My daughter in law is Saudi and has a masters degree from an American University. My 10 year old grandson is half English , half Saudi and goes to an international school in Saudi and is studying for an international baccalaureate. My daughter did her complete education in Saudi and the UAE, my son did most of his education in Saudi and the last three years in England at boarding school. Like anywhere else, there are good and bad, but I never had any problems. Cheers.
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Wilf, I worked for the Royal Saudi Airforce as a Specialist Instructor in their Air Defence Centre, from 1978, I saw the Iranian revolution in real time. I lived in the Middle East for 26 years, working mainly on military and civilian air bases. I speak passable Arabic, not as good as I should, but conversationable, I was there for the Iran/Iraq war, and when Egypt and Yemen were firing missiles into Saudi. I was there for both Gulf Wars. I have family and friends in the region including my daughter in law and grandson in Saudi and a cousin and his wife stuck in Cyprus
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That’s my “happy” look, ask anyone who knows me Cheers.
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Should have worn his hi-viv Cheers.
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My brother worked for the local council for 45 years, he was Health & Safety manager. Anyway, they needed a carpet fitter to do a job in an office, just a short term hire. My brother got his mate, Bobby the floor, as opposed to his other pal Bobby the roof in and he had an induction and was left to do the job. My brother went to check on him and Bob was laying the carpet, resplendent in carpet slippers, (what else ?), my brother said Bob , you have to wear safety boots, hi-viz vest, hard hat and gloves ! Bob gave him a scornfull look, shook his head, packed his Stanley kn
