The deerhounds suck and the greyhounds suck so lets breed them together to try and get lucky. Breed a good huntin dog to a good huntin dog and you will be so far ahead. You dont need greyhound, collie, deerhound, saluki, wheaten, beddy or bulldog. Every time somebody makes a new first cross like these, they go in reverse. No amount of "hybrid vigour" can make up for the decades of breeding good dogs and culling out the shit. I see two huge problems with huntin dogs today and one is everybody keeps thinkin they can improve by making more first crosses and secondly nobody is culling the shi