Greb147
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Everything posted by Greb147
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That you are Mary, this is a free lesson for you, I hope you're taking it all in. ?
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Calm yourself down wee lassie, don't want you wetting yourself. ?
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Goosebumps.
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Come on now Shark let's keep things amicable. ?
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Another factor that nobody has mentioned is the dogs DOB, some will have to inevitably start late depending on what month they are born, I always seemed to drop on winter litters which makes them at an age for steady entering at the back end of the next winter.
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Look what you've caused Mc, this is a peaceful thread away from all the insults and bickering, you have caused THL equivalent of WWIII here.
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The key word is start mate. Nobody has said you should run them in to the ground in their first season, just steady entering knocking a few over. What are we debating again, 12, 18 24, I'm lost now. ?
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Feck me you're starting late, just like ya dogs. ??
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Of course, Iooked it up cos it's common sense that they will hurt by that age ya pudding. I mean what wild dogs don't start hunting until they're 2 year old ffs. ?
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What about African Wild Dogs mate, probably the closest structural wise to a saluki type, they start hunting at around 12 months of age.
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You learn something new everyday mate, I've never had dogs suffer bone or tendon problems, must have been fortunate on that one. I've always done the method like mC said, just general mooching, being sensible about knowing when they're ready. I'm not talking about slipping a first season dog on hare after hare, just entering them steadily. All dogs mature differently, you wouldn't enter a deerhound type at the same age as a whippet type, it's all about knowing your dog IMO.
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You don't run em until they're 2 year old, what do you think are the benefits of doing that? Not saying one way is better than the other but we both know many a good dog has done plenty by the time they are that age.
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What's the benefits of holding them back that late, you think having a steady first season with them is detrimental to their development and potential?
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Why fella, by two year old some dogs have caught bags of hares just like some terriers have dug plenty of foxes by that age. When do you enter your dogs mate, not saying you're wrong, just curious.
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Each to their own, folk have different methods of entering lurchers just like they do with the terriers. All this wait until they're 2 years old or what not is way too long for me, if they're ready you tend to know when they're ready.
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I'd be just worried about it being a longer run than is comfortable. My collie cross caught his first at around 10 months old but I doubt it was a strong winter hare. If the hare was up and gone then it won't do any harm. I don't think I could ever hold a dog back until it's 14 months old though tbh.
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Tbf my arse would nipping seeing my 8 month old pup on a winter hare, I know accidents do happen though.
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I'm working not far from the powerstation on a farm next to the railway, all I've seen is a big dog fox with a scabby tail, no deer, rabbit or hares.
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Not spotted any hares there though, you haven't had them all have you mate. ?
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Are you ready and waiting @Francie?
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Looks just like the land where I'm working at Long Eaton. ?
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I just find it interesting mate, most folks in that game tend to agree that the coursing breds have more gears which can benefit them on land that isn't horizon to horizon. You obviously have massive experience with these dogs and if you say that the good pures can handle the smaller fields then I'm not going to question you. The saluki has a massive range so it's inevitable that different strains have different qualities, i.e., speed, stamina, heart, etc. I suppose you're right though mate, those that can make the grade only do so by catching hares, it doesn't get any simple
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You're saying most over here are too tightly bred and are lacking? When you outcross do you cross completely different strains from different countries or do you still keep it relatively close? I mean, imagine dogs from Saudi Arabia and Syria are as different as a greyhound and whippet if you know what I mean.
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The pures must be doing something right if you're sticking with them mate. In reality these coursing breds are just linebred UK saluki's that have more pace than most imports?
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@juckler123have you ever had coursing bred lurchers, if so what made you decide to stick with the pures?
