Jobi
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Trouble is that's in France. ?
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That's what I'm getting at, the fighters available to face Ali were of better quality than Louis or Johnson's opponents. A good resume is about the names on your list, Ali faced better fighters than both Louis and Johnson at the end of the day IMO.
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So you think the list of fighters Louis fought were better than Ali's opponents, not many subscribe to that idea I should imagine. Your opinion is your opinion though and fair play.
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Of course it was, it only gave him seconds though and not minutes like most people believe. That's what I just said, he was out of it at the end of the round and was given smelling salts whilst sat on his stool.
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30ft jellied eel. ?
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Who cares.
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Pipe down kike.
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You don't have to win the bouts to have a deep resume, resume is about who you fought in your career. If you want to talk about victories than that's a different matter altogether but Ali beat better fighters than Louis or Johnson. I told Stoney in an earlier post that I don't think Ali ever beat Norton in 3 outings yet was gifted 2. What's the point you are getting at anyway?
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No that's downright cheating in my eyes. Ali would have probably survived anyway because he had great recuperative powers but he was out of it when he sat down on his stool.
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Scientists have finally discovered what they believe is Nessie. Unfortunately for lovers of the beast it's turned out to be a giant eel and not a surviving plesiosaur. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/scientists-think-theyve-solved-loch-20094567
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Ali was given only a few seconds with the gloves, the real cheating happened when Dundee gave Ali smelling salts.
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Tbh Mike Tyson looked as game as they come in the Douglas and first Holyfield bouts, Fury has never taken a beating like that. Apart from him flipping out against Holyfield when he bit him he's gone out on his shield barring his last bout when he was almost 40 and a shadow of his former self.
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I strongly disagree, nobody in the division has a resume so deep. Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Holmes, Shavers, Patterson, Moore, etc..... That certainly trumps Louis who had Carnera, Schmeling, Baer, Braddock, Charles, Walcott, Marciano, etc.... And also tops Johnson who had Jeffries, Willard, Ketchel, Fitzsimmons, Langford, McVey, etc.... The fighters that run Ali the closest resume wise are probably Lewis and Holyfield IMO.
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I don't care what BoxRec says I've got every fight of his on film and I'm just about certain he's listed as 5'11 in every bout plus in every pic of them together Tyson is as tall if not taller. Tyson was the bigger fighter, to try and argue otherwise is plain silly.
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Tyson was listed as 5'11 and as always looked taller than Frazier on every pic they have together.
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Like to correct you he was not, Tyson was around 220lb and Frazier was around 205lb.
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No shame at all and he gave Frazier that much of a beating in the FOTC he spent weeks in hospital and was never the same again. I just think a bigger, faster, harder hitting Tyson would have been a much bigger danger than Frazier. Peak for peak that would have been a fight for the ages.
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The rope-a-dope was a myth, Ali did not plan to use this tactic at all. He underestimated Foreman's ability to cut off the ring and improvised on the spot.
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That was a promotion for their documentary Champions Forever, I've got it on DVD.
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He couldn't find a way in the first Frazier bout, yes he was a few fights after his lay-off but Joe proved he could be beat. That for me is probably the best HW fight of all time. He couldn't lick Kenny Norton in 3 outings even though he was gifted 2 of them, he was an amazing fighter and you would favour him to beat anybody at his peak but I'm not so confident. Louis and Tyson would have had the best chance of stopping him, both were ferocious combination punchers. A nice article on a mythical Tyson/Ali bout. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/kzzm53/a-brutally-honest-
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Got knobbly knees as well, proper self-conscious about them.
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What's poof about my pics, you feel uncomfortable seeing them?
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Resume wise he's the greatest no doubt at HW but there's a few that would have been very dangerous for him H2H. Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Larry Holmes.
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And just to prove I'm not lying like King here's me dressed in red.
