Thanks for all yours replys just watched a ranger tdci on ebay o7 plate went for just under 7k really like the rodeos as they seem to be comfy enough and reliable and 32 mpg which ticks all the boxes and also have had a look at a few td5s which are more expensive to buy but cant find one with decent milage within my budget i can get a 04 rodeo with about 70 k on clock for around 5, 6k but a td5 02 plate for over six what do you guys think