the LDL,traps are extremely powerfull , more powerfull than the 120 bodygrip, the problem was that even though they are the same size as the 120bodygrip , the power in those springs are awsome theywill wipe out mink and marten easy, the trappers out there were complaining to the government that they were dangerous , to the trappers themselves , if they they slipped and fired on cold hands catching your thumbs or fingers then you could have a problem , as they could damage bones and tendons , before you got it of , and also if way out far on a trapline alone , the 120 is fine and kill big dog m