APBT's that were used for producing running dogs were silent and up on the leg, many of them were 20tts, thats two ideal qualities when adding terrier into the mix of a running dog, Patterdales seldom make more than 15tts, this wouldn't be big enough for me to put to a running dog and when they are pushed hard during earthwork for whatever reason they have a tendency to bay (which is what they should do) and whose to say a lurcher with patterdale in its genetic make up wouldn't open up behind a rabbit on a winters night lamping if they were worked hard and began to tire, I have seen a first cr