maybe your right mate ,think its just what suits each person ? iv seen all different crosses do a decent job ,even a greyhound retrieve to hand many years back ? but for what I do a big suluki cross might struggle pushing through tight cover to retrieve a bird ?and my beddy crosses would maybe struggle behind a hare ? each to there own I suppose ? but I would love to see the waterloo cup run again it was a great end of season day out ? we can dream eh ?