How do see a f1 as a good starting point if they no good ? There fecked as you have said from experience yet you have never owned a beddy or worked one ? And of course you can’t breed f1 with a f1 that’s impossible but if your just buying in there’s nowt wrong with f1 they up to most stuff and punch above there weight ,f1xf1 is the same as lurcher to lurcher and yes you can get good ones but also cloddy wastage I know I’ve done it , that’s why I’d always go lurcher x hound and vise versus ,everyone to there own , I’m only interested in filling a pot and having stuff retrieved ,if anything else