The minshaw dog was a direct son of Vicks blue and the black dog in the pic was my mates lamping partners dog and was a minshaw cross collie greyhound, both dogs put some gear away in there time. He did well with the half bred , for a solid built dog I was surprised by how fast it was and I seen it run on a few things, i have quite a few old pics. But my mate is a private fella so best left in my albums.