Well, had a bit of cloud cover this evening so decided to pop down to the perm for a couple of hours see what was about, last couple of evenings it's been clear with no cloud and no wind so I left it, seen a few about out to furthest I seen was 189yds with the tracer f900 ir on top of the photon, manages these two at 42yds and 35yds, got to the 2nd one and its got a huge lump on it's back leg....