We'll they decided that after a hard days graft they'd pass on the photo, preferring to stay asleep in the box and let puppy peddling Hancock lurcher take all the glory ha ha ok maybe I am going into this wearing blinkers as regards to cocks dogs and as I said it's a testament to the individual owner if the dog turns out good. Only one thing for it il take a trip up to brum again and have another look myself