thanks for the reply mate. My problem really is that I'm returning to hunting after a lot of years, so i don't know anyone who does it now, and i wouldn't know where to start looking for the hunt... or where to find a nutall. i see lots of ads on the web for patterdales, but i don't want to fall at the 1st hurdle and get the wrong dog. I've kept, bred and trained working bulldogs (alapaha blue bloods) for years, so training a terrier i think i could turn my hand to... but apart from my dads patterdales from when i was a nipper, i have no experience with working terriers. any suggestions where